Overwhelmed , under skilled - and very fucking stressed

Kannah-krazy

Kannah-krazy

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Hey guys well

If been on the forums some time , mostly gathering informations and studying and such
I was once a closet grower on diy everything ,

I have hit hard times financially , and got whatever my reasons

I absolutley must grow some high grade meds

I have invested in a tent , 6' fan

600w light with a digi ballast

I currently have critical kush x pamir gold in the grow

3 in soil , canna terra professional and perlite 50/50 in 9.9 litre pots

And more recently I have decided to give hydro a go

So I also have a 25 litre re circulation top fed system

Everything's going seemingly at the moment however I now have all of the toys but nobody to play with

Let's face it
I'm a novice but I haven't killed any plants yet however this grow absolutley must be profitable to me

Even if it means I can pay off the system I got to grow
Pay the power bill
Take care of my mum for relaxing enough to trust me to grow and bot have kittens
And have a little smoke left over for personal stash

Okay so I have a 10x10 spair room and I basicly went out and got the biggest tent I could fit in there

I really need help guys

I'm scared the plans going to fall on it's ass
That I'm going to have to pay a massive electricity bill
For a 30g harvest

I need 2lb per harvest


I realise this will be no easy task

But I'm here to ask for help

Please to fuck somebody help

Basicly if I can't get a bit of supplementary income happening
I'll have various bad credit marks left
Possessions repossessed


I'm absolutley strung out and it's so fucked

Will I need more light

I know I'll need a carbon filter at some stage ,

I'm going to post pics and you can all flame the hell out of me and show me where iv gone wrong


So the question is


Soil or hydro

I am very impressed with vids iv seen with people running multiple hydro plants under a screen of chicken wire

I think it's called a scrog?

Anyways

I'll post pics and hope to god somebody tells me and guide me to a 2lb harvest
 

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Kannah-krazy

Kannah-krazy

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Kannah-krazy said:
Hey guys well

If been on the forums some time , mostly gathering informations and studying and such
I was once a closet grower on diy everything ,

I have hit hard times financially , and got whatever my reasons

I absolutley must grow some high grade meds

I have invested in a tent , 6' fan

600w light with a digi ballast

I currently have critical kush x pamir gold in the grow

3 in soil , canna terra professional and perlite 50/50 in 9.9 litre pots

And more recently I have decided to give hydro a go

So I also have a 25 litre re circulation top fed system

Everything's going seemingly at the moment however I now have all of the toys but nobody to play with

Let's face it
I'm a novice but I haven't killed any plants yet however this grow absolutley must be profitable to me

Even if it means I can pay off the system I got to grow
Pay the power bill
Take care of my mum for relaxing enough to trust me to grow and bot have kittens
And have a little smoke left over for personal stash

Okay so I have a 10x10 spair room and I basicly went out and got the biggest tent I could fit in there

I really need help guys

I'm scared the plans going to fall on it's ass
That I'm going to have to pay a massive electricity bill
For a 30g harvest

I need 2lb per harvest


I realise this will be no easy task

But I'm here to ask for help

Please to fuck somebody help

Basicly if I can't get a bit of supplementary income happening
I'll have various bad credit marks left
Possessions repossessed


I'm absolutley strung out and it's so fucked

Will I need more light

I know I'll need a carbon filter at some stage ,

I'm going to post pics and you can all flame the hell out of me and show me where iv gone wrong


So the question is


Soil or hydro

I am very impressed with vids iv seen with people running multiple hydro plants under a screen of chicken wire

I think it's called a scrog?

Anyways

I'll post pics and hope to god somebody tells me and guide me to a 2lb harvest
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AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Hey buddy, I know all about being stressed, so I feel your pain. But my best advice I can give is do not let the growing stress you out. Getting stressed about growing only leads to over analyzing things and screwing things up. Growing should be relaxing. Think of growing as a walk on the beach, when you enter the grow room you want to feel like all the weight is lifted off your shoulders. Make growing plants your passion and you will succeed.

With that being said, you will need more lights to achieve 2 lbs. 600w will yield the most advanced growers 1.5 lbs. But since you're new to this, aim for one lb per 1000watts

Imo if you want to yield the most possible for your first grow, skip the Scrog because that can be tricky. I would suggest doing a sog. A sog grow would be the fastest and most effective way to get the amount of meds you need.

You can fit 32 plants for a sog in a 10x10 room. All you need is an ounce per plant and you have reached your goal. With x2 1000w lights (or x1 600w lights and x1 1000w light since you already have a 600w.) I think you can do it.
 
Kannah-krazy

Kannah-krazy

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Stress isn't my problem
It's my mothers

You see I'm the baby and also the black sheep

All the other children went on to become engineers and such

Not me lol , she knows iv been tinkering with cheap led's and a closet with lots of silver tape and al foil

Anyhoo I went and fitted out a room and yeah , the old lady still don't know

Bit of a tricky situation but yeah

She is just a very very straight edge person

Never ever ever broken the law

Is one of those " scared of police " people

Well she's just close minded and think police are here to watch everybody's every move

As many times as iv told her , in the scale I'm doing things , it would be practically impossible to get busted

I dunno I just need a second income so I can save up and move back out of home
In my Openion , I transplanted one plant from soil to hydro , there all te same age , roughly a month and a half old

However the hydro plant has come leaps and bounds ahead of the others
It's pretty amazing

Anyways , that's why I was leaning towards 2 large plants on a top fed recirculating system , with the scrog

In the coming months I'll add a 400W and ballast ,

Should I get a 400 for 1000w total

Or get a second 600 for 1200 total watts
 
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growone

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not a hydro grower myself, always been soil
but i'd think hydro might add to your stress load
i know it can be done, but it would be 1 more mountain to cross
training though, such as SCROG, is probably a plan
i use LST, simple and pretty good, either way will help yields
 
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althor

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If you can get 2 lbs off 2 plants indoor, you are no Novice, you are a fucking master supreme grower and we all bow down to you. If you get a half pound off those 2 plants I will still say you are a not a novice. Good luck with it.
 
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

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no worries, she will still love you even after the police kick down the door and arrest her, she'll get over it eventually
Dr. Jekyll

no worries, it's not your house at risk, what's the worst that can happen, besides getting busted or burning it to the ground
Mr. Hyde
 
Greenhouse;save

Greenhouse;save

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Your a windup imo don't no wot your purpose is but anyway with the space u have and the amount you seek to yield u will need alot more than a bit of luck u will defo need anouther light 600 would do a high end filter system (smell not hydro) anouther 8plants with all the nuites to go with them grow bloom cal/mag and probably some more supplements along the way and last but not least a loan from ur bank manager to pay for the above and ur poor old mum's electricity........
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde said:
no worries, she will still love you even after the police kick down the door and arrest her, she'll get over it eventually
Dr. Jekyll

no worries, it's not your house at risk, what's the worst that can happen, besides getting busted or burning it to the ground
Mr. Hyde
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It may take a little more time to get over the flash bangings.
Let me get this straight, you're a new grower and expect to get 2 pounds from one 600 watt hps?
 
oilmaker68

oilmaker68

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Wah Wah Wah. Stop being such a fucking baby. We all got problems. Grow some balls then you might grow some decent bud.

Nobody grows 2lbs on their first go. Or second or third. If you want a big yield plant as many plants as you can. And get more light
 
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

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dbkick said:
It may take a little more time to get over the flash bangings.
Let me get this straight, you're a new grower and expect to get 2 pounds from one 600 watt hps?
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2 pounds would be a decent result for 600 watts
Dr. Jekyll

LMK if you need some advice on how to make it happen
Mr. Hyde
 
Bomixius

Bomixius

Active Member
A newbie growing? Then Hydro is not for you. You need ppm(tds) meter, ph meter, pumps, air Stones, nutes, and to be calm as fuck when you go and slip over and over again causing your reservoirs to go ph up, ph down, ppm to high, ppm too low, root rot, adjust here, adjust there.

Stick with soil, yes it's slower a bit, it's also more forgiving, and when you go on a weekend bender, the girls are still alive when you get back.

Buy another 600w, and look into another 6" in line. She's older and probably keeps the house warmer as it is. You need to keep the inside of that tent 80° tops. If. You can get air cooled reflectors and use that one 6" to keep those lights cool, that will help the tent temp.

Use that other 6" to blow air out into the attic or out a window, but a window will make it look like a grow op if anyone is nosey. You will also need that carbon filter sooner then later, some strains and phenos are smelly, you don't wanna get caught jerking off when you get raided because you didn't think you needed the filter yet. Also, this means you need to either cut holes in the ceiling or hope there is an attic access in the closet.

Now you have 2 oscillating fans, 2 inline buzzing, 2 lights cracking or buzzing and your mom's going to hear. It's going to happen, but if you setup properly, show here that you have filters and everything in place then she might let you stay, and try not to let her know that if you get busted she might lose her house.

I just told you you need to spend another 500 in fans, venting, lights, and whatever else and your having a panic attack. You need to tell your mom because your setup is going to make noise. Fucking Relax, no need to be that guy that sees a cop driving down the street and you go out running after him saying I'm so sorry officer I didn't mean to grow lbs of weed in my mommies house it just happened.

People on here are doing this most often as a necessity or a love. Your paranoid and going to make mistakes, this isn't a get rich quick scheme. It's a learning curve and even people who do it for years are asking questions and trying to learn.

This is an art, you need to learn what the plant wants, and what works for you in your environment and humidity.
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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you're in for a big disappointment! U will most likely get a pound of midgrade if your lucky!! And that's not going to cover the money your going to put into your first grow!! Maybe by the second if you can manage to keep them alive and afford the electric bill. U should catch up and start to make profit u won't just get two pounds unless your seriously the shit... no one gets that lucky...
 
Noinch

Noinch

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GrowinDad said:
Dude, it is WRONG to grow in ur mums house without her approval. You are putting her at legal risk and could harm your mom because of ur probs. I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but is not the way to treat your mother.
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jwilt2008

jwilt2008

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My first grow i grew soil 8 plants. Ending with a dry weight of 23oz. I considered myself lucky with that amount! I was hoping for 1oz a plant. I am on my 2nd grow now and still dont think ill reach 2lb. Good luck tho!

And for the whole doing it without your mom knowing thats just messed up!
 
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