oxygen infused water

wtxmale

wtxmale

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As an avid bass fisherman my bass boats livewell system has a oxygenator,,,its a small refillable o2 bottle hooked up to a internal airstone inside the return water line,,long story short,,it infuses pure oxygen into the water,,,So,,,has anyone tried to use this o2 rich water on there plants? is there any harm anyone sees? just been thinking I can run my system in my driveway with any water I put in the livewell and add pure o2, then pump it out and water plants right away,,, just a thought,,,,figured maybe someone has already done this in another way.
 
mike91sr

mike91sr

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Are you growing in soil? If so, there's no need to use oxygenated water. If not, you should be more focused on total air presence than DO.
 
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Bongrips420420

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Ive heard of people using sprite and/or peroxide to enrich the soil with oxygen. Ive never tried it, and it sounds risky as fuck for such a small increase in oxygen to your plants. Sprite has sugar and other No Nos in it and peroxide could open up a whole can of worms for your plant. Once again, Ive never tried this or even recommend this, Im just forwarding some info that I picked up online, that could possibly kill your plants.. GoodLuck with your 02 rich water!
 
spitsbuds

spitsbuds

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it carnt harm a thing only benefit and make for a all round better growing medium. i use oxygenated water in my coco(pure) which already as a good air to water ratio due to the husk. i ve have my grow dialed in now for 5 years same method strain ect. but this run i tried the oxygenated water/feed and my plants were bigger and the 5 week mark when they were ready for the flip carnt wait to see if the final results very from the last.also ive never had roots this white they like tom cruses teeth lol also it seem to make it easy to collect run off/drainage. so there is advantages. but its not really needed as above said
 
spitsbuds

spitsbuds

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if u ph youre water then add oxygen it will cause it to rise again. also its the same if youre nutes are not buffered. just thought i warn you as it caught me out when a was feeding my seedling water. i fed them water at ph 7.5 for 2 days before i realized . lol
 
dank smoker420

dank smoker420

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i got something like that for free. i guess i signed up for what i thought was some nutes. but i got sent hydrorush. it claims that it increases the amount of O2 your water can take up or something like that. i dont have hydro so i cant use it but it also says it makes your roots nice and white. possible because of all the O2
 
The Count

The Count

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I think the only difference between what youre doing and what I do is youre pumping pure O2. I use a RO system to "clean" my well water and I have a big 30gallon trash can that holds my "clean" water and inside that I have an airstone keeping the water oxygenated. If you let water sit it will "de-oxyegnate" starting within 30minutes of sitting which is not good... basically it is going "stale." I'd think infusing it would only help... how much to know if its worth your money buying the O2 is another question.
 
wtxmale

wtxmale

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I haven't actually used it yet for my plants,,was just thinking about it and decided to throw it out on the forum to see if anyone has done it and what were the results,,thanks for all the feedback,,,,currently I keep my water in a 5 gal. water bottle with a med. airstone and aquarium pump..usually turn on air about an hour before watering.
 
missnu

missnu

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wtxmale said:
As an avid bass fisherman my bass boats livewell system has a oxygenator,,,its a small refillable o2 bottle hooked up to a internal airstone inside the return water line,,long story short,,it infuses pure oxygen into the water,,,So,,,has anyone tried to use this o2 rich water on there plants? is there any harm anyone sees? just been thinking I can run my system in my driveway with any water I put in the livewell and add pure o2, then pump it out and water plants right away,,, just a thought,,,,figured maybe someone has already done this in another way.
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That is actually a good idea, but an even better idea would be to actually use the water that has had fish actually in it...so after a successful day of fishing use the dirty fish water to water your plants...as long as they aren't somewhere where raccoons, dogs, or Opossums can get to them...a lot of scavenger animals will dig in plants that smell like fish, but the plants love fish water.
 
missnu

missnu

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wtxmale said:
I heard in here somewhere not to use h2o2 in soil. is it ok?
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You can...H2O2 doesn't usually kill good bacteria the way alcohol and bleach do. But it also doesn't serve too much a purpose, but when it breaks down it releases oxygen...
 
missnu

missnu

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mike91sr said:
No. Why would you want to sterilize soil?
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H2O2 doesn't sterilize things..that is why they don't use it in hospitals and what not for sterilization the way they do Alcohol. it kills a lot of nasty germs, but leaves most of the good ones alone.
 
mike91sr

mike91sr

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"Hydrogen peroxide is another chemical sterilizing agent. Hydrogen peroxide is strong oxidant and these oxidizing properties allow it to destroy a wide range of pathogens and it is used to sterilize heat or temperature sensitive articles such as rigid endoscopes. In medical sterilization hydrogen peroxide is used at higher concentrations, ranging from around 35% up to 90%. The biggest advantage of hydrogen peroxide as a sterilant is the short cycle time. "

It is a sterilizer and they do use it in hospitals. And it does kill bacteria, good and bad.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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mike91sr said:
"Hydrogen peroxide is another chemical sterilizing agent. Hydrogen peroxide is strong oxidant and these oxidizing properties allow it to destroy a wide range of pathogens and it is used to sterilize heat or temperature sensitive articles such as rigid endoscopes. In medical sterilization hydrogen peroxide is used at higher concentrations, ranging from around 35% up to 90%. The biggest advantage of hydrogen peroxide as a sterilant is the short cycle time. "

It is a sterilizer and they do use it in hospitals. And it does kill bacteria, good and bad.
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But look at the concentration. At a more typical strength below 0.1%, and with its very brief persistence in soil due to the abundance of transition metal ions (which catalyze its decomposition to water and oxygen), its use (in concentrated form) as a sterilant isn't relevant. cn

As to the OP's question, the main barrier to peroxygenation of water using bottled gas is expense. It would add hundreds of dollars per grow. cn
 
Emry

Emry

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wtxmale said:
I heard in here somewhere not to use h2o2 in soil. is it ok?
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Goggle hydrogen peroxide in rainwater, i think that pretty much sums it up. As far as i remember from a ways back, there is less h202 in rainwater today than use to be with higher Co2 air concentration. As far as the DO didn't fatman give the exact amount water can hold of DO, so I think there is a celing that H2o can hold.. To greatly increase DO to roots that takes massive water movement, kinka like how the leaves need to move a little to pickup more Co2.
 
mike91sr

mike91sr

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cannabineer said:
But look at the concentration. At a more typical strength below 0.1%, and with its very brief persistence in soil due to the abundance of transition metal ions (which catalyze its decomposition to water and oxygen), its use (in concentrated form) as a sterilant isn't relevant. cn

As to the OP's question, the main barrier to peroxygenation of water using bottled gas is expense. It would add hundreds of dollars per grow. cn
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Right, but at the diluted concentration, wouldnt it lose any potential benefits along with its drawbacks?
 
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bonzo78

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I think it may help... I used to give my plants a good cap full of 3% H2O2 per full litre of water every so many feedings. I was actually amazed, because in the time after the feedings, growth rate approximately doubled for a short time. And I was growing in either soil or a soil/vermiculite mixture as far as I can remember. I imagine this is due to the fact that the Hydrogen Peroxide provides a way for the roots to have an abundance of oxygen for a time compared to being trapped in a container with limited ability to take in oxygen from outside the soil.
One thing not to do is to give the plants too much, or feed too often. I would imagine that wouldn't be good for the plants, as it's toxic and would probably burn as well as poison them. But yeah, I noticed the same as the other poster who said he tried it. Growth rate increased.
 
Galvatron

Galvatron

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theres a secondary benefit to peroxide in that it physically makes compacted soil looser and airy. you can try it yourself, get a cup of soil and pack it down then water it peroxide diluted in water after a day or so the soil will not be as compacted and will look more fluffy. the bubbles that peroxide release when it catalyzes lift the soil and allows more oxygen to get to the roots.
 
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