Hi Green
don't veg the papa to long, in 12/12 you will get 16'' to 26'' taller in veg i was not to happy in don't think i was going to get any yield my grow area is small so allso who want's to waste 4 months my first grow 4 plants looking good turn 12/12 i got all males ! dud i was so pissed, i am a diabetic, i feel like shit most of the time, when i got sick i did no know i had diabetes i lost 70 pounds 6 to 7weeks so finally was to the er room at the hospital my sugar level was 690 they told me if i waited 1 more week would have died it causes nerve damage, my feet, hands and legs hurt 24 / 7 weed helps the pain and keeps my sugar level down so getting a good yield was or males was not a good thing, however in 12/12 the papas turned on and made me vary happy.