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Peruvian Mountain Outdoor Grow 16/17

jonnyquest

jonnyquest

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Greetings all from Peru! Firstly let me say that i have learned so much of what i know from this site over the years and that i have watched many great grows unfold here so thanks to all and keep up the good work.
I have been toying with the idea of making a thread for my grow and since im doing something a bit different and am in need of a fair bit of advice i have decided to go for it.

The grow im about to start is in the mountains of southern peru at a house in a quiet farming region. I have been growing for years indoors and have dabbled, with varying degress of success, in outdoor guerilla grows but only in the UK. This grow is in a region of high solar radiation and high altitude with forgivingly moderate rain and wind so pretty much basically similar to england in no ways. So im going to need advice from anyone with experience growing at altitude, growing/living in the mountains and with growing long flowering sativas as the day length here only changes by about 2 hours throughout the year.

Its going to be 4-6 plants in the ground outside by the end of august (southern hemisphere). Im growing some awesome seeds i got from a farmer here when i was trekking in the mountains earlier in the year. They are 100% pure sativa genetics from the highlands with a very long flowering time im going to pop a few and try to keep 1 male as well for seed production. I also want to try and get something from a reputable breeder that will suit my environment so if anyone has any suggestions for a hardy long flowering sativa they think would do well at high altitude please say.

Ill post updates reguarly and fingers crossed everything goes to plan but i am stepping into the unknown so i expect there to be complications along the way!
here is one of innumerable incredible views im lucky enough to have access toViewfromthetop.jpg
 
jonnyquest

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rikdabrick said:
Very cool. If I get a chance I'll post up some info that could be helpful. What's your latitude? No need to answer that if you don't want to, but I'm curious. I'll be glad to tag along as you get going.
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haha no worries latitude isnt too risky i wouldnt think. Its around 16 degrees south
 
jonnyquest

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ttystikk said:
I'm in Colorado and I just want to see more mountain pictures lol

Seriously, I'll be happy to help in any way I can. Sounds like a fun challenge!
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asungate.jpgSo its mountains your after then eh? try these on for size.
Thats from asungate mountain which is one of the highest in peru, the missus and i do alot of trekking in our spare time. Some of the scenery this country has to offer is out of this world
 
ttystikk

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jonnyquest said:
View attachment 3739740So its mountains your after then eh? try these on for size.
Thats from asungate mountain which is one of the highest in peru, the missus and i do alot of trekking in our spare time. Some of the scenery this country has to offer is out of this world
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Amazing scenery! I'm curious about your altitude? The altiplano is something like 15,000ft, none of Colorado's peaks are that high.
 
jonnyquest

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ttystikk said:
Amazing scenery! I'm curious about your altitude? The altiplano is something like 15,000ft, none of Colorado's peaks are that high.
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Im at just over 3000 metres (10000ft) so pretty high but not ridiculously so and nothing really for round here. That last picture from asungate is at about 6000 metres (20000ft) and that was hard work, 5 minutes walking on flat is enough to leave you exhausted and mostly it isnt flat
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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jonnyquest said:
Im at just over 3000 metres (10000ft) so pretty high but not ridiculously so and nothing really for round here. That last picture from asungate is at about 6000 metres (20000ft) and that was hard work, 5 minutes walking on flat is enough to leave you exhausted and mostly it isnt flat
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I'm well aware of the effects of altitude on hikers. This is why my favorite mountaintops are all accessible by road!

Especially Pikes Peak, they even hold a race there every year. Electric cars are doing very well there, as it happens.
 
rikdabrick

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@jonnyquest do you know how long that variety takes to finish flowering that you got seeds of? I think you're doing yourself a service growing the long-flowering local strains. They'll do the best there. I'm in Hawaii and generally grow sativa dominant strains and they do the best in the tropics overall in my opinion as opposed to indicas.

I haven't grown at high altitude, but I have been growing in the tropics for awhile. Most likely with the local seeds you have you can probably plant them up until late fall and have them still finish in the spring before they start to reveg. Pretty much anytime of year should be good to plant those seeds besides the beginning of winter until around the spring equinox depending on flowering time. You can still plant in that time period, but they probably won't finish flowering before spring and they might reveg around the equinox. I'm guessing based on some experience. I'm pretty sure though the local strains are plenty accustomed to the two hour light difference between summer and winter and will feel summer coming on earlier than non-tropical strains. If they take 14 weeks or less you might be able to plant a little later and have them finish. I've flowered some 12-14 week strains in the middle of winter before and they finished before revegging.

In the months that it might be a waste of time to be planting long flowering sativas, you can plant anything else and they'll finish up fine and probably never have even a hint of wanting to reveg around spring. Indicas and hybrids will go straight to flower anytime of the year there and so will a lot of the lesser sativa-dominant leaning strains. Your only chance for getting big plants with large yields is with the longer flowering strains too. A buddy of mine here, used to for years, always have at least a few Thai plants out every long-season (basically spring to fall in Hawaii). All his other plants would be clones vegged indoors then flowered outdoors and would end up around a pound per plant and finish up quick, like 9-10 weeks. His Thai plants would be between 12-14 lbs, but they wouldn't finish up until December or January just to give you an idea.

How cold does it get where you're at?

Some seed companies that have some strains that might work really good in your climate are Ace Seeds, Cannabiogen, Mandala, The Real Seed Company, Seeds of Africa and Tropical Seed Co. They all have a variety of tropical strains and some of them are from high altitude areas also. There's also a bunch of with strains that could work in your climate, but they don't necessarily specialize in tropical strains, e.g., I got Mekong Haze (a Cambodian landrace) from Delta 9 and that's there only pure sativa I think. Mr. Nice and Connoisseur Genetics has some longer flowering sativa strains that could work and there's probably a bunch more I can't remember right now.

Well hopefully some of that is helpful. I'm off to bed. TTYL braddah :)
 
jonnyquest

jonnyquest

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rikdabrick said:
@jonnyquest do you know how long that variety takes to finish flowering that you got seeds of? I think you're doing yourself a service growing the long-flowering local strains. They'll do the best there. I'm in Hawaii and generally grow sativa dominant strains and they do the best in the tropics overall in my opinion as opposed to indicas.

I haven't grown at high altitude, but I have been growing in the tropics for awhile. Most likely with the local seeds you have you can probably plant them up until late fall and have them still finish in the spring before they start to reveg. Pretty much anytime of year should be good to plant those seeds besides the beginning of winter until around the spring equinox depending on flowering time. You can still plant in that time period, but they probably won't finish flowering before spring and they might reveg around the equinox. I'm guessing based on some experience. I'm pretty sure though the local strains are plenty accustomed to the two hour light difference between summer and winter and will feel summer coming on earlier than non-tropical strains. If they take 14 weeks or less you might be able to plant a little later and have them finish. I've flowered some 12-14 week strains in the middle of winter before and they finished before revegging.

In the months that it might be a waste of time to be planting long flowering sativas, you can plant anything else and they'll finish up fine and probably never have even a hint of wanting to reveg around spring. Indicas and hybrids will go straight to flower anytime of the year there and so will a lot of the lesser sativa-dominant leaning strains. Your only chance for getting big plants with large yields is with the longer flowering strains too. A buddy of mine here, used to for years, always have at least a few Thai plants out every long-season (basically spring to fall in Hawaii). All his other plants would be clones vegged indoors then flowered outdoors and would end up around a pound per plant and finish up quick, like 9-10 weeks. His Thai plants would be between 12-14 lbs, but they wouldn't finish up until December or January just to give you an idea.

How cold does it get where you're at?

Some seed companies that have some strains that might work really good in your climate are Ace Seeds, Cannabiogen, Mandala, The Real Seed Company, Seeds of Africa and Tropical Seed Co. They all have a variety of tropical strains and some of them are from high altitude areas also. There's also a bunch of with strains that could work in your climate, but they don't necessarily specialize in tropical strains, e.g., I got Mekong Haze (a Cambodian landrace) from Delta 9 and that's there only pure sativa I think. Mr. Nice and Connoisseur Genetics has some longer flowering sativa strains that could work and there's probably a bunch more I can't remember right now.

Well hopefully some of that is helpful. I'm off to bed. TTYL braddah :)
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Hey thanks a lot for that very much appreciated. sorry for the late response we dont have any internet at the house and the mrs doesnt let me use too much of her data haha. i hadnt thought about indicas but yeah of course they would just start flowering straight away, i could just start them indoors and put them out whenever i fancy and have some smaller plants come in throughout the season while im waiting for the local ones!
 
jonnyquest

jonnyquest

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rikdabrick said:
@jonnyquest do you know how long that variety takes to finish flowering that you got seeds of? I think you're doing yourself a service growing the long-flowering local strains. They'll do the best there. I'm in Hawaii and generally grow sativa dominant strains and they do the best in the tropics overall in my opinion as opposed to indicas.

I haven't grown at high altitude, but I have been growing in the tropics for awhile. Most likely with the local seeds you have you can probably plant them up until late fall and have them still finish in the spring before they start to reveg. Pretty much anytime of year should be good to plant those seeds besides the beginning of winter until around the spring equinox depending on flowering time. You can still plant in that time period, but they probably won't finish flowering before spring and they might reveg around the equinox. I'm guessing based on some experience. I'm pretty sure though the local strains are plenty accustomed to the two hour light difference between summer and winter and will feel summer coming on earlier than non-tropical strains. If they take 14 weeks or less you might be able to plant a little later and have them finish. I've flowered some 12-14 week strains in the middle of winter before and they finished before revegging.
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The strain is a peruvian landrace which i guess ill call Peruvian Red, i saw the plants still going in late May but we were smoking it as well so some had come down a bit earlier and it was definatly good to smoke so i think the plants which were still growing could easily have been flowering for 14 weeks or maybe a little longer. it was great smoke and great looking sativa plants i wanted to maybe get somthing else to see about mucking around and doing a bit of breeding but these are the plants im excited to grow and now youve given me the idea of putting out some short flowering plants as well.

temperatures dont get much lower than 10C even at night and remain pretty steady all year round
 
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