Phenotypes and unhappy clients?

I see alot of people buying seeds and producing plants that are "less" than what they expected. Is this due to co dominance of some of the genetics?
If there are multiple genes at work and there is co dominance involved is this what is causing so many phenotypes in a pack of seed?
If so it is a problem which can not be fixed and growers will have to find the phenotype they are after and clone it.
If they cross to another mix of codominant and recesive genes it will produce mixes of dominant, co dominant, hetrozygous and homozygous alleles and produce massive variation in genetics that would be hard to identify.
Would this be why multiple genetics for example "The Golden Ticket" phenotype from "Chernobyl" (Subcool TGA) are so hard to come by and coveted?

Any input is appreciated as I'm here to learn.

Thanks

Its all about searching for a keeping pheno! Theres no for shure thing. If your looking for info on
the best of the best genetic and geting more out of the breeding market look to this thread

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/398053-seed-collectors-thread.html

GUN1 said:

I see alot of people buying seeds and producing plants that are "less" than what they expected. Is this due to co dominance of some of the genetics?
If there are multiple genes at work and there is co dominance involved is this what is causing so many phenotypes in a pack of seed?
If so it is a problem which can not be fixed and growers will have to find the phenotype they are after and clone it.
If they cross to another mix of codominant and recesive genes it will produce mixes of dominant, co dominant, hetrozygous and homozygous alleles and produce massive variation in genetics that would be hard to identify.
Would this be why multiple genetics for example "The Golden Ticket" phenotype from "Chernobyl" (Subcool TGA) are so hard to come by and coveted?

Any input is appreciated as I'm here to learn.

Thanks

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that is because subfool is a pollen chunker not a breeder...jus sayin

Well i wont go that far but there does seem to be some slipping up on the new stuff geting sold

Darwinism at work.Good breeders cube the plant with desired traits so chances are the traits get passed on more frequently.For in nature a fast finishing plant has less chance of getting pollen in a longer season zone so chances are it can fail in that zone.A grower would want a faster finisher with other desirable traits kept in check mainly in the Indica variety for they are faster than Sativa.One would prefer Sativa traits but would have a longer finishing time.Plants throwing off different traits is combined with survival of the fittest,natural selection,and the hybridation of the breeder.I hope this makes sense.

Good stable genetics should only have a 2-3 good pheno's to it, and that's it. That is my opinion. I just grew a 2 Regular White Label White Widow plants during my last grow. 1 was a male and the other 1 was a female. The female turned out to be some mid-grade weed at best. It barely had any smell to it and had no visible trichs. Was it me or was it the gentics or was it just a shitty pheno? I still have 8 more seeds, but they will have to wait a long while if ever to be tried again. My hopeful guess was that it was just a shitty pheno, but they were cheap seeds compared to many other breeders of the WW. Plus, I know that they are so many variations of the White Widow out there, that you are expected to get some watered down genetics with some breeders. Those were the 1st seeds that I had ever bought in my life, and I ended up with way better results with 2 freebies that I planted which were GH Super Lemon Haze and Barney's Pineapple Chunk.

The problem is all the hybreeds they don't take the time to stablize there genetics it takes years to create a consistant variety and a good eye subcool has good phenos like everyone else but you need to clone for consistency theirs not to many good IBLs out there because it takes to long and to much skill for most breeders subcool being a new breeder with so many strains shows he didn't spend much time stablizing his strains not to say hes got shit but nothing to special you will need to grow more then ten seeds to find the best pheno like his jack the ripper that was well over 20% thc most breeders produce hybrids of hybrids and lack consistency also most of the real good consistent stains aren't sold cause of the fear another breeder will take and rebreed for cheaper witch happens all the time just look at white widow everyone has it they use their great consistent shit for hybrids so they don't through out there lifes work cause it takes years its like subcools black cherry soda he don't sell it he does make crosses with it though. if they sold us a great consitent product we coould take one male and one female breed them and have our own stock wich would fuck their buissnes the best way would be to get a couple of the best strains find the best phenos and stableize them you will get better weed then you can from the seed banks cause they don't let ther best go greenhouse don't give you shit there all feminized its all marketing if you don't get the right pheno you just buy more you try to breed its not the same you need the best shit and work with it for years indoors it will take a lifetime outdoors

A perfect example is I grew white widow and it was anything but white. I guess I had the green phenotype... lol. Hoping when I grow again ill get that beautiful sticky whiteness all over my plants