Place your bets on my first 12/12 from seed budsicle

Hey guys,

i thought it would be interesting to see who is the best budsicle prognasticator.
Grown 12/12 from seed with a slow start since the seed went in the ground on 2/1. Is growing under 188 watts of cfl 2700k lights. The plant is currently only 5 inches tall and has been showing pistils since 3/6 as the first picture shows. I have included a top and side view of the Lil cola staying to take off. I am guessing 8 more weeks or so of flowering going to approx half cloudy and half amber. This is from some good bagseed stock. I originally wanted to achieve a half ounce cola and an curious how close I can get. I am using miracle grow bloom 15 30 15 every third watering At this point as I did experience a Lil nute burn when I got over zealous. This is in soil perlite mix with ph of 7.

So give me your prediction. I believe I can get at least a pretty 1/4 oz cola dried weight. I will dedicate the bud to the winner.

First pistils on 3/6


these were today 3/12 approx 1 week into flowering




I will update with progress pics every few days till she comes down.

Happy trails to all!

I'll guess 1/2 oz...

I will be very happy if that turns out to be true. I would be happy with any success as this is my very very first grow. I am I the process of putting together a proper setup but figured what the heck and decided to do this one as a Lil project.

And any tips, comments, or suggestions are welcome. Also, feel free to post pics of your budsicles grown 12/12 from seed.

Happy trails to all!

Wow....lots of interest. I know this is very small potatoes but I will stick by Lil runt and will post updates so that any who care to can comment or give a ice.

These are 5 days later and are 11 days after showing pistils so I guess that means 11 days into flowering?




The Lil bonsai is soooooooo dwarfed and is right at six inches. This had turned into a experiment just to see what she will give. I have not grown before so I don't know what to expect over the next 7 or 8 weeks as she flowers so I don't have a clue how much growth or yield I can expect. Predictions are welcome. I will update in a few more days.

Happy trails to all!

3.5 grams max/

It sure isn't doing much that is for sure. As mentioned before, this is my first Rodeo and I am not sure how much length or girth is typical fir a cola to put on with six weeks to go in flower. I understand that many variables play a role in determining yield but is there any sort of general rule that would give me an idea? Someone with experience please give me your input. I haven't given up blue on the 1/4 oz cola but I don't see how it is possible at this point unless there is some explosive growth and swelling yet to come.

These are this morning which is 14 days into flowering on this 12/12 from seed dwarf. I figure six weeks left approx in flower.

When did you clip all the lowers? because it looks like you did it all at once and stessed the plant into not stretching at all, which is going to severely hurt your yield.

It's also getting too cold, OR needs cal/mag, you have purple stems and slow growth.

What to expect over the next several weeks is steady bud development until about the 5-7 week where you will see a significant increase in bud production before it reaches time to harvest it.

When growing 12/12 from seed I don't cut ANYTHING off the plant until it is done stretching, the period when it first starts flowering plants generally stretch 100%-300%, under CFL's during this time your plants should be growing close to the lights daily and need the lights to be raised daily. After I am sure this time is over is when I will start to trim lowers. I treat 12/12 fs the same way people treat auto flowers, I put them through as little stress as possible, because all of the short time they have under the light needs to be devoted to creating bud sites.



That's my Synthetic fertilizer 12/12fs grow, I got nearly 2 oz. per plant. The strains are Northern Lights *right, and 2 Big Buds *left. Granted that's under a 400watt HID. an ounce to 1.5 oz should be achievable under the right conditions with CFLs positioned correctly.

There's a book by SeemoreBuds on CFL growing, it's stupid simple book but will give you some basics as far as lighting.

The NL would have yielded more, but half of that fat ass dense ass cola turn to ass BUD ROT!!!! Ran these girls last summer, paid for it. We have 90% humidity sometimes, my AC's couldn't deal last year and my plants suffered.

Wow....nice girls! I removed the lower branches one set at a time as they were having issues and yellowing and dying. The stems have been purple since day 1 and have started turning green but I have not figured this out as temps are have not been below 68 If that low. I think likely that a combination of factors were in play such as too much nutes, overwatering, ph screwed up, cheap soil with not enough perlite.... lots of things I have learned since starting this journey. I have now started two seeds in 16 oz solo hempy cups with 100% perlite and will change over to a larger hempy with perlite as well and am excited to see how this works. I have read loss of good things and believe the hempy will provide great oxygen, keep me from overwatering by design, and provide a good nutrient flow through an easily maintained ph level. We shall see.

As for this dwarfs future development, if she will keep progressing and perhaps even get a growth spurt I will be pleased. I expected to have to move the lights more. She just isn't stretching as I expected. I am going to go back to a light feeding next time as I backed off to plain water when she was showing signs of a lil nute burn and what I believed to be too much nitrogen. Quite a learning curve.

i have not used cal/mag. I will have to learn about this as well.

Table spoon of Epson salts if you have that around should clear up the purple stems. 1 tbsp to 1 gallon of water. You can start off a little lower since she's a bit small but that's the general rule, I wouldn't go over one tbsp.

maybe start with 1/2 table spoon, I bet the stems start turning green within 24 hours.

Mr.Head said:

Table spoon of Epson salts if you have that around should clear up the purple stems. 1 tbsp to 1 gallon of water. You can start off a little lower since she's a bit small but that's the general rule, I wouldn't go over one tbsp.

maybe start with 1/2 table spoon, I bet the stems start turning green within 24 hours.

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do you think I should flush them Wirth this solution or just give a little drink? Also, would you recommend holding off on the 15 30 15 mg bloom I have using? I appreciate your help brother!

I would wait until they are needing water then give them a standard watering with the epson salts in the water. Over watering will do more damage to them then the epson salts will fix So wait until you pot is nice and light and then give them the epson salts.

I would not give them epson AND 15-30-15 I would wait until the next feeding after the epson salts to go back to nutrients, else your PPM will be higher and probably burn the plants. An option could be to use less of your normal does of the 15-30-15 and less epson salts to keep the PPM lower and provide both things to the plant. Really Im horrible with synthetics I burn shit all the time, that's why I went to organics. The plants feed themselves I don't worry about shit but water and the occasional "throw what ever I have in"
tea.



Most of the orange spots on those plants are light pollution from the HID shining in the closet, my camera seems to pick up a lot of it. The lowers are a bit yellow in this picture though.

That's molasses and EWC, Bone Meal Blood meal kelp and alfalfa meal teas in a premixed "cooked" for a month soil. Everything bought from Home Depot except EWC and Molasses.

* I found out I was probably making my teas wrong, but obviously still somewhat effective.

Dude.... Those are some pretty flowers. Thanks for the help. I will do the Epsom salt in moderation when I next water and then come back with a light feeding the next time.

I am thinking I may veg the two I have in hempy cups for a month and then go to 12/12. It seems I will benefit from the growth and will end up with more after the same 12 week period instead of doing the 12/12 from seed this time.

The biggest disadvantage in growing 12/12 fs is the plant doesn't get as "fat" of a support system as with 18/6 or 24/0, what I mean by that is the less light means the stalks and stems will be thinner, that's the uptake system of the plant so it will naturally have an effect on yield. Because of this I imagine some strains will do absolutely horribly in 12/12fs and others will be more suited for it.

Vegging for a month if you have the time and space is not a bad idea at all. Make sure you implement some training techniques if you're still working with bag seed like LST, topping, and super cropping, to learn some stuff it's all really easy to do. There's lots of techniques to learn and you might as well learn them before dropping $20 per seed Mainlining is a nice technique too, I haven't used it yet but there's a nice thread or two on here about it.

If I ran the genetics I am working with now at 12/12fs I bet I'd yield a quarter it's got real weak branches and a real small stalk after 4-6 week veg.

I have no experience at all with hempy but hear it's pretty much hydro, that shit scares me, I think I'm going to be organics for life it seems daunting at first but in reality it's so damned easy it's hard to convince myself to try a different way. All I do is check my soil to see if it's dry, if it is I water.

So today is three weeks since flowering began. The little bud has put on some size in the last week. It seems to be growing fast and dense. I am very curious to see how much length this little budsicle will put on over the next five weeks or so. It ain't gonna be much I know but it will hopefully be better than the bag it came from and will be my first time to smoke something I grew. I am hopeful that it will have a big growth spurt and/or swelling spurt.

Happy trails to all!

So what's it lookin like now?? Lol I'm curious.