Plagiarizers in the Politics section, lets name them

Vlad The Inhaler · Mar 31, 2012

Hello Rollitup, I've been lurking since a thread "Ron Paul is a turtle fuker" came to my attention. Reading various political threads in here (some interesting exchanges). The latest one I read is Keynesian Economics. Interesting posts but I noticed some comments that seemed too-good-to-be-original.

Mainly one from a poster known as NoDrama and his Post # 117: https://www.rollitup.org/politics/514477-keynesian-economics-12.html#post7205810

NoDrama said:
I think the fiat system of economic governance is completely wrong. The most important difference between commodity money, such as a proper gold standard, and paper money, such as our present fiat money system, is the elasticity of the money supply. In the former, money is essentially inelastic, in the latter it is perfectly elastic. Most economists would say that elasticity is a big advantage. It makes fiat money, if managed properly, superior as it allows the Fed to stabilize the economy.

My argument is that this is false, and that the opposite is true. The elasticity of the money supply in a fiat money system, and the constant expansion of the money supply under present arrangements in particular, systematically distorts relative prices, disorients economic actors and destabilizes the economy over time. Imbalances accumulate, which obstruct further growth and which will be countered with accelerated money injections, destabilizing the economy further. Elastic money is unnecessary, suboptimal, unstable, and ultimately unsustainable and history has shown that every fiat currency ever tried has failed miserably. Even a small 2% per year inflation rate eventually eviscerates the middle class as the heavy burden of taxes and unfunded wars causes market distortions, if you understand how exponents work it becomes quite obvious. The system must make enough money available each year to pay off the cash injection PLUS the interest due from the previous year. This guarantees inflation over the short, medium and long term, an ever widening ocean of constantly devaluing money.

So I did some quick Google checking of the paragraphs above and here is what we came up with. The first paragraph was copy/pasted from http://papermoneycollapse.com/2012/03/what-gives-money-value-and-is-fractional-reserve-banking-fraud/:

And the second paragraph was copy/pasted from this here source: http://www.cobdencentre.org/author/dschlichter/

Vlad The Inhaler · Mar 31, 2012

So are we sharing our own ideas or copy/pasting the writings of others to come off as more knowledgeable. I think we ought to stick to discussing more simple topics where we are qualified to share our own thoughts and ideas.

Just saying.

beardo · Mar 31, 2012

Vlad The Inhaler said:
So are we sharing our own ideas or copy/pasting the writings of others to come off as more knowledgeable. I think we ought to stick to discussing more simple topics where we are qualified to share our own thoughts and ideas.

Just saying.

I like Ron Paul, but a lot of the stuff he talks about he takes from the constitution

UncleBuck · Mar 31, 2012

Vlad The Inhaler said:
So are we sharing our own ideas or copy/pasting the writings of others to come off as more knowledgeable. I think we ought to stick to discussing more simple topics where we are qualified to share our own thoughts and ideas.

Just saying.

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AltarNation · Mar 31, 2012

Vlad The Inhaler said:
So are we sharing our own ideas or copy/pasting the writings of others to come off as more knowledgeable. I think we ought to stick to discussing more simple topics where we are qualified to share our own thoughts and ideas.

Just saying.

A piece of advice: This is a cannabis forum, and few take anything here seriously. There are better places to seek legitimate study of politics. Just my two cents. (I stay out of here for the most part...)

UncleBuck · Mar 31, 2012

this isn't the first time ND has been caught plagiarizing, he also tried to do the same with some kool-aid man crashing through walls rant.

beardo · Mar 31, 2012

Vlad The Inhaler said:
Hello Rollitup, I've been lurking since a thread "Ron Paul is a turtle fuker" came to my attention. Reading various political threads in here (some interesting exchanges). The latest one I read is Keynesian Economics. Interesting posts but I noticed some comments that seemed too-good-to-be-original.

Mainly one from a poster known as NoDrama and his Post # 117: https://www.rollitup.org/politics/514477-keynesian-economics-12.html#post7205810

So I did some quick Google checking of the paragraphs above and here is what we came up with. The first paragraph was copy/pasted from http://papermoneycollapse.com/2012/03/what-gives-money-value-and-is-fractional-reserve-banking-fraud/:

And the second paragraph was copy/pasted from this here source: http://www.cobdencentre.org/author/dschlichter/

You would have had a feild day with duke antony

Vlad The Inhaler · Mar 31, 2012

AltarNation said:
A piece of advice: This is a cannabis forum, and few take anything here seriously. There are better places to seek legitimate study of politics. Just my two cents. (I stay out of here for the most part...)

I agree with you. I do Inhale, and my name real name is Vlad, but never looked for a forum on the subject. The Turtle Fuker thread got me to reading this section. Credit to TS of that thread, for a entertaining read. :clap:

UncleBuck · Mar 31, 2012

beardo said:
You would have had a feild day with duke antony

duke often loved to copy and paste, but he did not try to pass it off as his own original thought, like nodrama has done on more than one occasion.

AltarNation · Mar 31, 2012

Y'allz still ranting on the question of NoDrama's legitimacy is hilarious to me. Stopped taking him seriously the first time I read a post. Modrama is the king of selective acknowledgment... he holds the crown.

ChronicObsession · Mar 31, 2012

LOL vlad whatsup. anyway dracula, I don't care about who copy and pastes political crap around here. Politics for me = cleaning an eternally soiled toilet. I am the king, just come to my island and say fuck all to that anti-marijuana b.s. at the 1st world illusion nation

Vlad The Inhaler · Mar 31, 2012

UncleBuck said:
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Wait, you're the Author of the Turtle Fuker thread, aren't you? Kudos to you.

That's the kind of contribution that's appreciated. Better than reading long, perfectly grammar-ed opinions from posters that are copy/pasted from other peoples opinions, regarding complex monetary issues.

beardo · Mar 31, 2012

NoDrama is one of the greatest on the site, and i'm pretty sure if he copyed it was to convey an idea not to appear to be a literary genius

AltarNation · Mar 31, 2012

beardo said:
NoDrama is one of the greatest on the site, and i'm pretty sure if he copyed it was to convey an idea not to appear to be a literary genius

Ohhhhh! Beardo strikes again! Not happy with your ranking in the "best trolls of politics" thread eh?

ChronicObsession · Mar 31, 2012

I think noone can top wikipedia's choice of grammar. why fucking reinvent the wheel?????? are you guys HIGH!

beardo · Mar 31, 2012

Vlad The Inhaler said:
Hello Rollitup, I've been lurking since a thread "Ron Paul is a turtle fuker" came to my attention. Reading various political threads in here (some interesting exchanges). The latest one I read is Keynesian Economics. Interesting posts but I noticed some comments that seemed too-good-to-be-original.

Mainly one from a poster known as NoDrama and his Post # 117: https://www.rollitup.org/politics/514477-keynesian-economics-12.html#post7205810

So I did some quick Google checking of the paragraphs above and here is what we came up with. The first paragraph was copy/pasted from http://papermoneycollapse.com/2012/03/what-gives-money-value-and-is-fractional-reserve-banking-fraud/:

And the second paragraph was copy/pasted from this here source: http://www.cobdencentre.org/author/dschlichter/

Every last letter in your post was originally written by someone else
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_alphabet

It's all been done before

ChronicObsession · Mar 31, 2012

So, who is going to punish this guy? Hmmmmm, I will call potroast's cellphone

Vlad The Inhaler · Mar 31, 2012

beardo said:
NoDrama is one of the greatest on the site, and i'm pretty sure if he copyed it was to convey an idea not to appear to be a literary genius

I thought he was ok too after his initial post in the Keynesian thread, which everybody gave him props for (was that plagiarized too?).....but then something started to look fishy to me and prompted me to do a little google check, and whoala, copy/pasted word for word. Didn't leave a footnote or nothing. It's one thing to be a avid reader and regurgitate some of the stuff you learned from books, but word for word?

Am I talking to NoDrama or the author of NoDrama's posts? Ya know.

beardo · Mar 31, 2012

ChronicObsession said:
I think noone can top wikipedia's choice of grammar. why fucking reinvent the wheel?????? are you guys HIGH!

AltarNation · Mar 31, 2012

beardo said:
Every last letter in your post was originally written by someone else
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_alphabet

It's all been done before

You're about to take the "selective acknowledgment" award right out of Mo's hands man.. back off, he earned that crown fair and square...

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