Please diagnose this, is it worth trying to save

FoilageTrees

FoilageTrees

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Ok, I need help with this plant, the strain is ducks foot x frisian dew. I'm very stupid to not see this weeks ago. So here it is, if you ask me it's too late. If you look closely the plant is covered in webs . It's really hard to focus on webs. The only leaves that have not a ton of evidence of something are the brand new ones. I know this is probably spider mites but is it worth saving?
 

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FoilageTrees

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Chunky Stool said:
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You could use sns 209. It's an organic systemic. Active ingredient is rosemaric acid.
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Ill see if the hydro place near me has it. Have you opened that pic of under the leaf in a new tab and zoomed 300x yet? are the small white spots around the edge all eggs? i think the big dot sitting on a web is a mite?
 
Chunky Stool

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FoilageTrees said:
Ill see if the hydro place near me has it. Have you opened that pic of under the leaf in a new tab and zoomed 300x yet? are the small white spots around the edge all eggs? i think the big dot sitting on a web is a mite?
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It looks bad. Not sure if you've got time for a systemic to kick in. I recently learned a lot about mites -- the hard way. Believe me, spraying your plants with oils and soaps will not fully eradicate them unless it is done consistently over a long period of time. Can't miss any nooks or crannies. Plants won't like it either. Clogs stomatas and generally pissed them off.
Hot shots, on the other hand, are continuous release, effective, and very thorough. Not recommended for flower but I started using them for veg and haven't seen a bug since. And I look very very close...
 
FoilageTrees

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Chunky Stool said:
It looks bad. Not sure if you've got time for a systemic to kick in. I recently learned a lot about mites -- the hard way. Believe me, spraying your plants with oils and soaps will not fully eradicate them unless it is done consistently over a long period of time. Can't miss any nooks or crannies. Plants won't like it either. Clogs stomatas and generally pissed them off.
Hot shots, on the other hand, are continuous release, effective, and very thorough. Not recommended for flower but I started using them for veg and haven't seen a bug since. And I look very very close...
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Should i trim off some clusters of eggs by cutting like a clone that u nee d to make fit
 
Chunky Stool

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FoilageTrees said:
Should i trim off some clusters of eggs by cutting like a clone that u nee d to make fit
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No, that will injure your plant.
I read that a 50/50 alcohol h2o mix sprayed twice a day will kill them and not hurt the plant. Might be worth trying just to sow them down until a systemic kicks in (2 weeks).
Also, sns 209 is not registered as a pesticide because it doesn't actually kill the little fuckers. Just makes the plant taste bad to them. They will have to either move on or starve.
 
FoilageTrees

FoilageTrees

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Chunky Stool said:
No, that will injure your plant.
I read that a 50/50 alcohol h2o mix sprayed twice a day will kill them and not hurt the plant. Might be worth trying just to sow them down until a systemic kicks in (2 weeks).
Also, sns 209 is not registered as a pesticide because it doesn't actually kill the little fuckers. Just makes the plant taste bad to them. They will have to either move on or starve.
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Should I put it near some random plant so they might move onto it faster ?
 
Chunky Stool

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No man, a systemic goes in the water you feed them. That's why it takes so long to work.
Hot shots start working immediately. The less air flow, the better. Vapor permeates entire area so all bugs die wherever they may try to hide.
 
Chunky Stool

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FoilageTrees said:
I really want that systematic mainly for my other plants that are just starting with mites, does the sns fuck with the plant at all, if so what does it do?
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Not that I've seen but I've only been using it a week + hot shots. The hot shots start killing them immediately & sns 209 keeps em from coming back.
That's the plan anyway. As soon as I'm convinced all bugs are dead, I will put the hot shots in a Ziploc bag & save for a rainy day. Hell, I may just hang em in my crawlspace. If the systemic works as expected, I shouldn't need hot shots again.
 
Diabolical666

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Cross contamination is the worst with the aholes. If you want organic do neem one day and the sns the next day. Go back and forth between the two till its gone, even if you dont see them for weeks . Saturate your grow with the sns spray : pots, soil, wipe down equipment, and spray hiding places . Do this once a week.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Diabolical666 said:
Cross contamination is the worst with the aholes. If you want organic do neem one day and the sns the next day. Go back and forth between the two till its gone, even if you dont see them for weeks . Saturate your grow with the sns spray : pots, soil, wipe down equipment, and spray hiding places . Do this once a week.
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Neem oil will also help prevent PM (powdery mildew).
 
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