Please help a new grower

Deondre

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I brought my plant indoors for 36 hours to start the flowering phase. I've been doing 12/12 light for two days now. The newer leaves are getting a little better but some are still browning. This is my first plant ever. It's outdoors I keep it shaded sometimes due to high heat outside. I use regular water to water it. And am using miracle grow moisture control. Could it be from foreign debris on the leaves from being in my closet for 36 hours? Or heat stress? Anyone please? Also should I remove the dying leaves or let nature work it's magic ?IMG_0646.JPG IMG_0644.JPG IMG_0643.JPG
 

ALong14U

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Miracle grow with time release nutes will cause lockout as you can see. Also looks like iy got a little watm. But you need to flush with 5 gallons of water. Wait 1 day. Then transplant into something better. Try fox farm it will work great for at least 2 months. Fox farm ocean forest or fox farm strawberry fields.
After transplant water only when the pot is very light when picked up and water tp 20 percent runoff. In the future do not use miracle grow. If you have to you need to sift any pieces of wood larger than half a penny. And mix in at least 30 percent prelite. This is the only way to get miracle grow to do a half way decent job. But i would recommed not using it.
 

Deondre

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Miracle grow with time release nutes will cause lockout as you can see. Also looks like iy got a little watm. But you need to flush with 5 gallons of water. Wait 1 day. Then transplant into something better. Try fox farm it will work great for at least 2 months. Fox farm ocean forest or fox farm strawberry fields.
After transplant water only when the pot is very light when picked up and water tp 20 percent runoff. In the future do not use miracle grow. If you have to you need to sift any pieces of wood larger than half a penny. And mix in at least 30 percent prelite. This is the only way to get miracle grow to do a half way decent job. But i would recommed not using it.
Dam man thanks can I find that potting mix at my local Home Depot ? The fox farm?
 

Chunky Stool

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Miracle grow with time release nutes will cause lockout as you can see. Also looks like iy got a little watm. But you need to flush with 5 gallons of water. Wait 1 day. Then transplant into something better. Try fox farm it will work great for at least 2 months. Fox farm ocean forest or fox farm strawberry fields.
After transplant water only when the pot is very light when picked up and water tp 20 percent runoff. In the future do not use miracle grow. If you have to you need to sift any pieces of wood larger than half a penny. And mix in at least 30 percent prelite. This is the only way to get miracle grow to do a half way decent job. But i would recommed not using it.
Miracle grow soil is not ideal for cannabis but it doesn't cause lockouts.
Don't flush it -- feed it! Hell try some mircale gro 20-20-20, or anything with lots of nitrogen.
 

Chunky Stool

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Yes indeed, there's some bad advice in this thread.
Read what's in a bag of miracle gro moisture control soil, then you'll know what you are talking about. It doesn't contain enough nutrients to cause lockouts. The plant in the pic needs to be fed, not flushed.
 

ALong14U

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Idk why he would give such awful advice in the first place. He needs to stop medicating then ..now.
Probably just trolling.

Miracle grow is for very advanced growers.
It needs to be worked and ammended for indoor use.
Now outside if you dig a big hole mix the narutal dirt with half any miracle grow it will do pretry good with just water if you use the feeds for 6 months npk.
But for a novice grower fox farm or something similar is all ways the best. Espically indoors.

Matched with GH 2 part flora grow and bloom. Add GH Koolbloom at weeks 3 to 8. Use GH rippiner cant remember name. Something like 9-28-42 NPK. Powder on the shelf with the rest of GH line at hydro store. Or under items purchased together when purchasing Koolbloom on just about any site selling GH.

This dirt with these nutes will take any beginner from beginning to end in a first grow with great success.
As long as they do not overfeed or over water.

People should try and help not troll and give detrimental advice.

I allways try to help!
 

ALong14U

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Yes indeed, there's some bad advice in this thread.
Read what's in a bag of miracle gro moisture control soil, then you'll know what you are talking about. It doesn't contain enough nutrients to cause lockouts. The plant in the pic needs to be fed, not flushed.
You are full of shit buddy.

Any miracle grow with time release nutes release more nutes into the medium EVERY time it is watered.
With watering daily or ever other day you release way to many nutes into the medium.
The large chunks of wood in most miracle grow is detrimental as well after about 25 days of not being flushed or watered to 20 to 30 percent runoff.
The wood decays and the micro organisms that eat it also release nitrogen into the soil. So if you happen get to day 30 without lockout. You soon after gain nitrogen toxicity from the influx of nitrogen from the decaying wood. Is there large chunks of wood in any quality soil?
Answer is no.....

Miracle grow is for very advanced gardeners espically if used indoors.

I guees the 5000 threads on this website alone not counting the 100s of other sites just like this with several thousands threads. About how miracle grow is not good for mj. And how just about every beginner who starts with it fails on that grow.
Trolling or not......argument is over your head.

NamestE!!
 
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Lola Grows

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Probably just trolling.

Miracle grow is for very advanced growers.
It needs to be worked and ammended for indoor use.
Now outside if you dig a big hole mix the narutal dirt with half any miracle grow it will do pretry good with just water if you use the feeds for 6 months npk.
But for a novice grower fox farm or something similar is all ways the best. Espically indoors.

Matched with GH 2 part flora grow and bloom. Add GH Koolbloom at weeks 3 to 8. Use GH rippiner cant remember name. Something like 9-28-42 NPK. Powder on the shelf with the rest of GH line at hydro store. Or under items purchased together when purchasing Koolbloom on just about any site selling GH.

This dirt with these nutes will take any beginner from beginning to end in a first grow with great success.
As long as they do not overfeed or over water.

People should try and help not troll and give detrimental advice.

I allways try to help!
Just saying, with happy frog & ocean as options why would anyone use miracle grow? That's the first thing I was told to stay away from. Even when I read up from seasoned growers the advice was always ..... stay clear of that crappy ass soil. Someone's in their feelings over this I see lol.
 

Chunky Stool

Well-Known Member
Probably just trolling.

Miracle grow is for very advanced growers.
It needs to be worked and ammended for indoor use.
Now outside if you dig a big hole mix the narutal dirt with half any miracle grow it will do pretry good with just water if you use the feeds for 6 months npk.
But for a novice grower fox farm or something similar is all ways the best. Espically indoors.

Matched with GH 2 part flora grow and bloom. Add GH Koolbloom at weeks 3 to 8. Use GH rippiner cant remember name. Something like 9-28-42 NPK. Powder on the shelf with the rest of GH line at hydro store. Or under items purchased together when purchasing Koolbloom on just about any site selling GH.

This dirt with these nutes will take any beginner from beginning to end in a first grow with great success.
As long as they do not overfeed or over water.

People should try and help not troll and give detrimental advice.

I allways try to help!
Wow...
"Miracle Grow is for very advanced growers"???
Hey @Dr. Who, you should get in on this... :dunce:
 

Tx-Peanutt

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I am not an experienced grower but even I know to stay away from miracle grow u have to be experienced to know how to mix it to where it is helping and not hurting your grow. And as far as Lola and a long one for u they know what they are talking bout I have gotten advise from both and it was always good advice.......
 

ALong14U

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Both of you idiots giving advice should shut the fuck up. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about and this poor guy needs help!
Ha. Lets see some pics from your badass miracle grow plants then bud? Telling him to get out of MG and into something more beginner friendly is great advice.

Telling him to use pure MG in a pot and add 20-20-20 is the only joke here besides you.
 
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