Please Need Help with Fox Farm Nutes.....Plant is turning yellow fast.

Hello Everyone,

I need some help from anyone who currently uses or has grown with the Fox Farms Nute Series. Anyone can feel free and help...I currently have the Fox Farm Feeding Schedule. Here are the following Nutrients I have and using for my 1st grow (Yes I am a NEWBEE):

- Fox Farm Grow Big (6-4-4)
- Fox Farm Big Bloom (.01-.3-.7)
- Earth Juice MicroBlast (Mg/B/Co/Fe/Mn/Mo/An)
The last time I fed my plant "MamaDude" "BabyLou" "Pat" was on Friday,Nov 12, morning time 1 hour after the lights came on.
I fed my plants the following Nute:
MamaDude : Week 8 (1-tsp Grow Big 50% of recommend dosage/1-tblsp Big Bloom 100% of recommended dosage).
Baby Lou n Pat: (1-tsp Grow Big 25%/1-tblsp Big Bloom 100%).

All are BagSeeds...

According to the Fox Farm Feeding Schedule for Week 8 I should be using 2-tsp of Grow Big/2-tsp of Tiger Bloom/1=tlbsp of Big Bloom.
So do I need the Tiger Bloom or can I get away with what I got right now?

Also do i really need the purchase the Open Sesame/Beastie Bloomz/Cha-Ching?

Right now my budget is limited to $30 so I already have 2 of them what else do I really need? I am sure you can grow good bud with out some but I dont know cause I am a newbee looking for some help.

Well here are pictures of my plants turning yellow. Take note in Pic#6 it looks like the leaves are crispy well that was from a previous problem I had when my plant was Nute LOCKOUT. None of the yellowing that has happened is making the leaves crispy or drying. Yesterday it started showing yellowing as I posted that in my Journal. These pics are currently today.

My whole tent is 12/12 400 watt HPS. All the details on my grow is in my signature so if you need info on it hit up my link too.

Thanks for taking the time to read this thread and I appreciate your help if you have it.

Peace
BKB

First off, are you checking the pH? They aren't getting their N which is while they are so yellow, as well as other nutrients.

kudaross said:

First off, are you checking the pH? They aren't getting their N which is while they are so yellow, as well as other nutrients.

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Yes I do both wet and dry ranging between 6.5-7.0 for the last 2 weeks. I check every other day maybe two days.

How do you check the Ph, with what type of tester? How often do you water?

Mother's Finest said:

How do you check the Ph, with what type of tester? How often do you water?

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RAPITEST Model #1845 Digital pH Soil Tester.

Last two watering I used the "Make It Rain Technique" I flush the plant and then after 2 or 3 days I add a light coat with very little run-off of Nutes. I started off with 25% then worked my way up to 50%GB n 100%BB. Then wait another 2-4 days on how long it takes for the Finger test and my Moisture Meter which I got at Lowes for $8 and repeat the process.

BKB

Using a pH of 6.3 - 6.8 is best. I have to agree with MF, how often do you water? Because they are very droopy, and I'm not sure if this is because lack of nutes, of excessive waterings.

Edit: why are you flushing every so often?

It appears to me that the plants are overwatered. Also, when I see perlite that is stained as badly as yours, the soil is full of salts from nutes and they need to be flushes asap. Anytime your perlite gets that bad, consider flushing heavily. When you are done, the perlite will be bright white and the salts washed out of the soil. Some of your pictures also look like the leaves are exhibiting the dreaded Nitrogen claw. One sympton that condition can exist with yellowing leaves is overwatering.

Flush plants and let them dry out a bit before the next feeding.

bekindbud said:

RAPITEST Model #1845 Digital pH Soil Tester.

Last two watering I used the "Make It Rain Technique" I flush the plant and then after 2 or 3 days I add a light coat with very little run-off of Nutes and repeat the process.

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I've never met a cheap soil tester that I liked. Get a PH meter for liquids and measure your run off for more accurate results. Also, if you did a full flush a few days ago, that perlite is stained with salts and nutes and it doesn't appear to have been flushed. When you say you repeat the process, how many times and how often?

Your leaves are showing nitrogen toxic shock.

I flushed my plants on the 10th of Nov until the run-off was clear as the water(I tested the runoff in the begining n end and was between 6.8-7.0). Then 12 Nov the first 3-4 inches of soil was dry so I gave a light coat of Nutes with hardly no run-off. My perlite has always been that color even after I flushed my plant 2 times in the past 3 weeks. My perlite was kind of toasty in the early stages of Veg from the light(well thats what I thought). I learned some valuable info about perllite...Thanks Serapis, that is whats great about my screw ups and making mistakes....I Learn MORE n MORE!!!

So should I flush them again or just wait a couple of more days....As of right now my container is getting very light in weight so I am sure in a couple of days she will need water or flushing?

Sounds like your watering schedule is wacky. You need to wait for the plants to tell you they need watering, which is when the soil is completely dry, they will be slightly wilted, but a good watering will perk them up within the hour. this lets oxygen get to the roots, which is pretty important if you ask me.

Serapis said:

I've never met a cheap soil tester that I liked. Get a PH meter for liquids and measure your run off for more accurate results. Also, if you did a full flush a few days ago, that perlite is stained with salts and nutes and it doesn't appear to have been flushed. When you say you repeat the process, how many times and how often?

Your leaves are showing nitrogen toxic shock.

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LOL I guess thats me learning what NOT to buy.....any recommendations on one for me to buy at a reasonable price please?

kudaross said:

Sounds like your watering schedule is wacky. You need to wait for the plants to tell you they need watering, which is when the soil is completely dry, they will be slightly wilted, but a good watering will perk them up within the hour. this lets oxygen get to the roots, which is pretty important if you ask me.

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Thanks kudaross, so what do you recommend I do right now?

poor poor mama.. .

Don't flush again!

I swear that every growing technique anyone ever thought of eventually got blown out of proportion. What started out as rinsing away nutes at the very end of flowering to minimize fresh bud growth that would not have time to mature, for some people has turned into dumping gallons of water through the soil at every other watering. Flushing wets the soil too much, not allowing air to get to the roots. It's not something that should be done often. Make sure that about the top third of your soil is bone dry before watering and only water until a handful of soil drips a few drops when squeezed.

RawBudzski said:

poor poor mama.. .

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Yes I am bummed out about me screwing up!!!!!! Thanks Raw!

Mother's Finest said:

Don't flush again!

I swear that every growing technique anyone ever thought of eventually got blown out of proportion. What started out as rinsing away nutes at the very end of flowering to minimize fresh bud growth that would not have time to mature, for some people has turned into dumping gallons of water through the soil at every other watering. Flushing wets the soil too much, not allowing air to get to the roots. It's not something that should be done often. Make sure that about the top third of your soil is bone dry before watering and only water until a handful of soil drips a few drops when squeezed.

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So just regular nuetral 7pH Water?

Usually the soil and fertilizers in it will adjust pure water to the proper Ph. As long as you monitor how using plain water affects soil Ph, you don't need to adjust it unless you reach a point where the soil doesn't change the Ph correctly.

Just because you're asking about watering, I want to say again as others here already have, the main concern is to let them dry awhile and work on a better, drier watering schedule.

My best guess on it is *probably* overly wet soil as well. Neither of them are receiving a high amount of nutrients, you didn't start nutrients until later in the grow, they've been flushed only once after a likely overfeeding and that was weeks ago, you've been routinely monitoring pH, they are mid-flowering so a little yellowing could be expected regardless, they are a bit on the lighter side of green for suspecting nitrogen toxicity, growth and bud formation is continuing... and besides the drooping/curling under there are no other possible signs of nutrient burn.

Anyone else agree/disagree or can otherwise add their thoughts?

Wish I could help with the FF nutrient question BKB - anyone else used the FF line w/o Tiger Bloom? The purple petioles are likely just from a little stress related to the curling, but I'm curious if Big Bloom has all the phosphorous plants need during flowering...

I would like to thank everyone with their inputs....very effective and I am going to let MD dry out...

But I would like to know about the Nutrients by Fox Farm. Is what I am using good enough to get by and finish this grow? I am only using Big Bloom, the feeding schedule calls for Tiger Bloom, can I get away with Big Bloom only? Anyone using the Fox Farms line up? Please help? Thanks

BKB

Big bloom only will not be enough. Big Bloom is weak enough to use on clones and seedlings and is organic. Tiger Bloom has the majority of the mobile nutes and it has a lot of the micro nutes as well. I could not recommend Big Bloom only for any cycle of the plant other than it's first 3-4 weeks.