DaleRoberts
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Thanks for the info I will definitely read up on this.
PM wash
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vertigo0007
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Thanks but no, burning tree is way too hairy for me. Yikes. I tried to post the link to the info because i was/an using an iPhone and that site requires flash. I dont hide behind anybody pal. Spelling errors on a mobile device, really? I was nice in the first post. Instead of looking it up and realizing his mistake the op chose to argue. Youre right, what i said was insensitive. i should have referred to it as 'cognitive impairment'.
HomeLessBeans
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Nope don't swear by it. Used it once to get some buds finished. Left an aftertaste.
Mycobutinol(Sp) eagle 20, or immunox end the problem.
AimAim
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Do some reading on Bordeaux. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordeaux_mixture
Copper Sulfate CuSO4. It's super-safe, cheap, used for decades on grapes and will knock most fungi on it's ass. Easy to find also, any decent lawn & garden store will have it. You can get it in liquid or powder, liq is probably what you would want. I've used it a lot in general gardening for mildew and it always worked well and quick. Just my opinion but no need to run out and buy expensive stuff, Bordeaux is an industry standard fungicide.
Burning Tree
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Copper Sulfate alone will be difficult to use and ensure eradication. It also leaves a residue that acts as a protective layer which I try and avoid. If you are going to use a copper product try Phyton 27 as it is systemic as well and will not leave a residue.
Complete eradication approach:
Once PM infected harvest is over remove all plant waste and moldy bud from the premise and do a thorough cleaning. Take clones for next round and trim moms down as much as possible. This is a good time to rejuvenate moms as well so pick the best clones and keep it as the new mother once they root and discard the old stock plant. Disinfect the entire place with Physan 20 and an atomizer/sprayer. Coat the floors, walls, ceilings, gear, every surface and crack in the facility needs to be hit included entrance and walkway surfaces. Anywhere you have been. Don't forget your air ducts. Let it dry and do it again. Treat the mother and veg stock with Eagle 20. Once plants are half way through veg (2-3 weeks) treat with a fungicide with a different mode of action if possible such as Quadris. Right before initiation of bloom(2-3 weeks after last app) hit everything with Eagle 20 again. We also spray a tea based foliar that helps as well every 2 weeks (Capulators Bene's)up to week 2 bloom. This will ensure you broke the life cycle of the fungus. The conidia can only survive in the environment without a viable plant host for 5 weeks.
This is a bit harder to do if you grow in your home as most people can only disinfect their grow area. The problem is most people walk out of this area and into the rest of the house trailing these spores everywhere with them. So no telling if you are bringing spores back into a disinfected area. Also make sure the area is well contained as eagle is nothing to joke around about spraying. Use proper application practices and dont reenter the area for 24 hours after application.
Complete eradication approach:
Once PM infected harvest is over remove all plant waste and moldy bud from the premise and do a thorough cleaning. Take clones for next round and trim moms down as much as possible. This is a good time to rejuvenate moms as well so pick the best clones and keep it as the new mother once they root and discard the old stock plant. Disinfect the entire place with Physan 20 and an atomizer/sprayer. Coat the floors, walls, ceilings, gear, every surface and crack in the facility needs to be hit included entrance and walkway surfaces. Anywhere you have been. Don't forget your air ducts. Let it dry and do it again. Treat the mother and veg stock with Eagle 20. Once plants are half way through veg (2-3 weeks) treat with a fungicide with a different mode of action if possible such as Quadris. Right before initiation of bloom(2-3 weeks after last app) hit everything with Eagle 20 again. We also spray a tea based foliar that helps as well every 2 weeks (Capulators Bene's)up to week 2 bloom. This will ensure you broke the life cycle of the fungus. The conidia can only survive in the environment without a viable plant host for 5 weeks.
This is a bit harder to do if you grow in your home as most people can only disinfect their grow area. The problem is most people walk out of this area and into the rest of the house trailing these spores everywhere with them. So no telling if you are bringing spores back into a disinfected area. Also make sure the area is well contained as eagle is nothing to joke around about spraying. Use proper application practices and dont reenter the area for 24 hours after application.
HomeLessBeans
New Member
^^^^^^^^ nicely laid out.
DaleRoberts
Well-Known Member
Ok thanks for the advice! I will give this a try
mancelonaman
Member
Would cleaning the actual room and equipment with bleach work?
HomeLessBeans
New Member
not nearly as well as what Burningtrees laid out..
PM is not systemic...but the problem is..
Burning Tree
Member
Physan is a better choice because its spectrum is broader and requires less contact time to disinfect. Its also pretty cheap at $16 a qt and has many uses. Its safe to use on growing plants as well. I use it to dip cuttings and keep all tools and surfaces clean. Also works great to clean cloners in between clone runs. It can also be used as a foliar as well. Physan even updated their product literature to show this. Check out the peculiar statement at the end of the hydroponics usage page for yourself!
http://www.physan.com/hydro_physan.html
However I would only use it in veg if you are not foliar feeding ACT or other beneficial microbes.
However if in a pinch bleach would work in this particular case considering the spores we are trying to eliminate.
The importance of thoroughness cannot be understated regardless of what you choose to disinfect with.
http://www.physan.com/hydro_physan.html
However I would only use it in veg if you are not foliar feeding ACT or other beneficial microbes.
However if in a pinch bleach would work in this particular case considering the spores we are trying to eliminate.
The importance of thoroughness cannot be understated regardless of what you choose to disinfect with.
mancelonaman
Member
Thanks, I was thinking in terms of expense. Stuff is really cheap though..