Police visit over garden can't belive in 2015

Hello out there.
Well just some fyi!
Watch for ordnance in each city.
I live in Arvada and was given the 3rd degree by 4 police officers
Over the smell coming from my house.
First off a little about my garden its 2 plants in my backyard
I harvested pot from small locked greenhouse in backyard over 9 days ago and its no longer here.
I think today was the worst day of my life.
Law enforcement seems to think i was a drug lord or something.
The police demand i let them in my backyard.
I said no they demanded so i let them.
I walked them to a locked greenhouse and bam nothing
In there.
So at this point they're yelling! "where's the grow"?
At this point I'm like what grow?
There now saying they're able to come inside my house with no warrant and that I'm in deep trouble
well i told them i ate dinner and if I'm going to jail let's get this over with.
Now its good cop bad cop b's
And let us come in ?
Well they end up leaving and me and my wife were both given tickets
Growing in a locked greenhouse
and odor for nothing there.
Im kinda Down about growing
But i'm happy to say this state is the best state in the union
In Texas I think a no knock search warrant would have probably happened.

If they don't have a warrant or probable cause they cannot come onto your property.

Under no circumstances submit to anything. If they have a legal right to do something, they will do it, they wont try to trick you into giving consent.

Only things you should say to police are, "I do not consent to searches", and "Am I under arrest or am I free to go?"

As far as whatever ticket you got. You have to decide if its worth fighting or just capitulate and pay it.

I hate suggesting this on principal and hate to be a mindless drone to the fascistic police state but the other options can end up much worse for you. For example, I know my rights when being pulled over or questioned by police, and on principal I don't want to tell them my name or give ID but in the end it's safer and easier to just be a sheep. But I will never submit to a search or be interrogated without being mirandized and have representation present.

As far as your chances I'm no lawyer but the system is fucked, it'll be your word vs theirs, and they can literally get away with murder so you are fucked. They have no way to prove the odor but you have no way to disprove it so....

So you are busted ...in need of comfort ...so where do you go but to RIU, ....shame on you ...

Listen man ithe rules today are the same as 20 years ago… 1st rule… know your rights!!

I had a small 2 light grow 15 years ago in Kansas… I came home one day and there was an officer outside my house…. he told me they knew I had plants, I kept pointing to my tomato plants in the yard and saying "there they are" they wanted me to consent to letting them search… I declined and admitted nothing… this went on for about an hour until they arrested me, took me downtown. They put me in a cubicle with my ankle and wrist handcuffed and a piece of paper, told me if I wanted to talk they would let me out of that room…. 4 long fucking hours later they gave up and took me into a holding cell.

Bottom line my lawyer asked me what I told them, I said nothing and he commented he wished he had more clients like me…. case never went to court because I admitted nothing, let no one in and a few other details on their end.

Yep. Never consent for them to search without a warrant. They will use fear and intimidation to get their way. Make them abide by the 4th amendment. They are not your friend nor ever will be. If you are doing everything legally then it's all the more reason to make them work for whatever it is they are fishing for. I considered a locked greenhouse grow, but concern of smell and potentially theft from neighbors is making me reconsider. My guess is someone saw the plants and knew the only way to get at you was complain of smell.

Grojak said:

Listen man ithe rules today are the same as 20 years ago… 1st rule… know your rights!!

I had a small 2 light grow 15 years ago in Kansas… I came home one day and there was an officer outside my house…. he told me they knew I had plants, I kept pointing to my tomato plants in the yard and saying "there they are" they wanted me to consent to letting them search… I declined and admitted nothing… this went on for about an hour until they arrested me, took me downtown. They put me in a cubicle with my ankle and wrist handcuffed and a piece of paper, told me if I wanted to talk they would let me out of that room…. 4 long fucking hours later they gave up and took me into a holding cell.

Bottom line my lawyer asked me what I told them, I said nothing and he commented he wished he had more clients like me…. case never went to court because I admitted nothing, let no one in and a few other details on their end.

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Another great point. Never say anything to incriminate yourself.

Thanks
For the feedback guys
I thought I'd share some insight
On following ordinances
@vostok Hi-five

If the officers had LEGAL reason to search your property, they would have a warrant in hand and would not be asking. Not to say they might leave and come back with one later if they can get one. Be NICE, but say/admit nothing. No warrant, no entry...but be NICE. If they can get you pissed off, you will probably say or do something that they can arrest you for. Never accept any story about helping them helps you. The only person who can make any legal deals is an attorney. Any attorney worth his/her salt will tell you to shut the hell up until he/she talks to you in private and is shown what LEO has or does not have on you.
Don't even open your door if they knock. If they have a warrant, they will let themselves in. Anything they can see from the outside is fair game, so don't open the door and don't put shit where someone can through a window. You know the saying, "Tell it to the judge?"...the only job police have is to PUT YOU in front of a judge for anything they can and let a judge/jury sort it out.

Timewalk said:

Thanks
For the feedback guys
I thought I'd share some insight
On following ordinances
@vostok Hi-five

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Please do impart info on how this may well have occurred ..thx

Grojak said:

Listen man ithe rules today are the same as 20 years ago… 1st rule… know your rights!!

I had a small 2 light grow 15 years ago in Kansas… I came home one day and there was an officer outside my house…. he told me they knew I had plants, I kept pointing to my tomato plants in the yard and saying "there they are" they wanted me to consent to letting them search… I declined and admitted nothing… this went on for about an hour until they arrested me, took me downtown. They put me in a cubicle with my ankle and wrist handcuffed and a piece of paper, told me if I wanted to talk they would let me out of that room…. 4 long fucking hours later they gave up and took me into a holding cell.

Bottom line my lawyer asked me what I told them, I said nothing and he commented he wished he had more clients like me…. case never went to court because I admitted nothing, let no one in and a few other details on their end.

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Sounds pretty illegal what they did to you.

researching said:

Another great point. Never say anything to incriminate yourself.

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Never say anything to cops ever. Nothing you say can prevent your arrest OR conviction and it is not admissible in defense. It is only admissible by the prosecution to prosecute. You literally gain nothing by ever helping them. Many people have tried to help cops and wound up in jail for a long time.

Dirty Harry said:

If the officers had LEGAL reason to search your property, they would have a warrant in hand and would not be asking.

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Don't I know it! lol.

vostok said:

Please do impart info on how this may well have occurred ..thx

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I think this may occurred do to the fact we have the biggest neighborhood block watch in Jeffco so i think they smelled it and someone reported it.
But this isn't the first time cops were here on this block over marijuana.
Back about 2 years ago 3 doors down people were growing and they were the nicest people .
well the block watch caught wind of it and next thing you know they're being threatened with the swat team.
Got to love stay at home conservatives!

So, the tickets you got.... What exactly are they? Fines? If so how much?

OGEvilgenius said:

Sounds pretty illegal what they did to you.

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Get this, they called in the bomb squad for a possible "meth lab" even though its on record as my landlord calling it in when she illegally entered the property without 24 hour notice, left the property called it in than went back in (per dispatcher request) to double check that they were pot plants. So we had her acting as an agent of the law, we had the fire department illegally dispatched and than we had me not admitting to a single thing…. hence I walked!! If I had consented to a search talked, busted…. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law.

Timewalk said:

I think this may occurred do to the fact we have the biggest neighborhood block watch in Jeffco so i think they smelled it and someone reported it.
But this isn't the first time cops were here on this block over marijuana.
Back about 2 years ago 3 doors down people were growing and they were the nicest people .
well the block watch caught wind of it and next thing you know they're being threatened with the swat team.
Got to love stay at home conservatives!

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Time to think about joining the local block watch club, or at least have a close friend on the committee ..?

Grojak said:

Get this, they called in the bomb squad for a possible "meth lab" even though its on record as my landlord calling it in when she illegally entered the property without 24 hour notice, left the property called it in than went back in (per dispatcher request) to double check that they were pot plants. So we had her acting as an agent of the law, we had the fire department illegally dispatched and than we had me not admitting to a single thing…. hence I walked!! If I had consented to a search talked, busted…. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law.

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FYI, my lease says 24hr notice but Co law does not.

AlGore said:

So, the tickets you got.... What exactly are they? Fines? If so how much?

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The tickets are for marijuana odor and marijuana growing outside.
I should receive a fine by mail in 20 days.

vostok said:

Time to think about joining the local block watch club, or at least have a close friend on the committee ..?

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I've thought about it 2 summers ago
But when they were plotting to build a case
For the medical grow 3 doors down
I thought differently especially when pot and meth are looked at as the same thing.

I'm in Colorado, and I have had my interactions with the local police. I was nice once- and got a ticket. After that, I just gave them my lawyer's business card and they've left me alone.