Pre1998 Bubba Kush Grow

Hey everyone, I'm new to RIU, but not to growing. I'm on day 14 of my latest grow and trying something I haven't done before. I'm using a low-power LED panel over each plant until it's time to flower.

So far, here's what I've done with this crop:

Sunday, August 29, 2010, is the first day in the Ebb and Flow system. Plants are about 4 inches tall from the lava rock with the exception of Tub 4. That one is barely clearing the lava rock.

All four plants (Sorry about the LED only pic.)


Tubs are numbered Tub 1 = Front left, Tub 2 = Rear left, Tub 3 = Rear right and Tub 4 = Front right

Tub 1 Aug29th



Each plant was rooted in an aeroponic system and then given very mild vegging nutrients for two weeks before moving them to the Ebb and Flow system. All four clones were under a single 28 watt LED "GlowPanel" for this entire time.

The initial nutrients are half strength General Hydroponics 3 part Flora Series.

The LEDs are about 4 inches above the plant tops.

Room temp is 78F and no air conditioning is necessary to maintain this temp. I have a fan blowing into the room from a larger room next to it just for some air movement.

Pump is set to my usual timing of one hour on, two hours off.


Wednesday, September 08, 2010


Everything is running smoothly. Tub 4 is gaining some height and side branching is starting to show. I’m going to start tracking plant heights.

Measured from top of lava to tip of tallest part of each plant.

Tub 1 = 8”

Tub 2 = 10”

Tub 3 = 10.5”

Tub 4 = 5”

Tub 1 Sep 8th


Tub 2, Sep 8th


Tub 3, Sep 8th (The best growing of the four plants)


Tub 4, Sep 8th ("Shorty")




Saturday, September 11, 2010


Today is the 14th day since putting the plants into the E&F system. I’ll measure them each Saturday from now until harvest to keep it at even weeks.

Measured from top of lava to tip of tallest part of each plant.

Tub 1 = 10”

Tub 2 = 10.5”

Tub 3 = 13”

Tub 4 = 6.5”

Tub 3, Sep 11th is the attached pic. Next Saturday I'll post new pics of all four.

Ok, well that gets the Journal caught up to date. I'll make a weekly post unless something radical happens.

Just topped off the reservoir. pH is holding nicely at 6.1 and the plants are starting to use some nutrient solution now.

thats some rapid growth man. looks nice.

NIce, whats the difference between pre and post '98 bubba?

SB Garlic said:

Nice, whats the difference between pre and post '98 bubba?

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I can only assume that the "post98" Bubba Kush is not as good as the "Pre98" Bubba Kush since I've only grown the Pre98.

I can say that the strain I have is the strongest Indica strain I've ever smoked in 40 years of smoking weed. Everyone who tries it from my grow thinks it's also the strongest they've ever smoked. It has a remarkable smell in the bag also. It's my favorite so far.

WeedyMcweedweed11 said:

thats some rapid growth man. looks nice.

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Thanks WMWW! I love growing this stuff! I always have. I started growing back when a quarter oz of primo was 20 bucks because of the cost. Now, stuff like mine goes for 80 and 1/8th around my area. Holy Crap! I couldn't afford to smoke weed if I had to buy it on the street.

I use a Can-Filter100 to control the extreme smell of the grow. It's one of the loudest smelling strains I've grown also.

Topped all four plants last night.

All of them are still looking great. The LEDs have them growing very well and with great side branching and structure.

No signs of any deficiencies.

The room temp is staying between 74 and 80F without the air-conditioner. This is the largest advantage to using the LEDs. It gives me some down time on the electric costs during the vegging cycle. When using the HPS lights for the equivalent growth, I would have to use the air-conditioning and 860 watts of HPS, (two 430's).

These LEDs and I are going to develop a long and lasting friendship.

Looking good pre 98 bubba ill be glad to see this grow.I got some bubba kush but its ghs version.

wyteberrywidow said:

Looking good pre 98 bubba ill be glad to see this grow.I got some bubba kush but its ghs version.

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Hey WBW, thanks man! I do love the P98BK. I've learned to respect it's potency. One toke is all that is needed for fun. Four tokes puts even the hard core smokers out of action. For those with trouble sleeping, it's the cure. When partying, I stick to one toke at a time with a minimum of 30 minutes to and hour between tokes.

I'm seriously impressed with the LEDs. The LEDs worked outstanding while rooting and then excellent while starting their vegging in aeroponics and now fantastic in the Ebb and Flow while vegging and each plant has it's own panel.

More pics will be posted on Saturday. It'll take a couple weeks for the topping effects to become obvious. I may top them one more time before flowering.

Did you get them from seed?Sounds like a winner to keep.Ill see how yours grow out.

wyteberrywidow said:

Did you get them from seed?Sounds like a winner to keep.Ill see how yours grow out.

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No, I got 6 cuts from a friend who in turn got his from a friend who bought his in a dispensary in California quite some time ago.

I've since shared with a friend in Canada and another here in the USA.

I've heard that the Pre98 Bubba Kush isn't available in seed form, only cuts.

On a side note, construction on my new two grow rooms proceeded a bit further this evening. The framing is now in place and the walls will be going up tomorrow. The doors will be on by next week and I can paint then.

Each of these rooms will have inside dimensions of 4 feet by 6 feet. Both will have eight ebb and flow grow tubs in them. The reservoirs for both rooms will be outside the rooms and plumbed into the rooms through the wall.

I'll alternate vegging and flowering in them for a continuous grow with my current grow room being my room for Host Plants and my Aeroponic Rooting system.

Things are moving along.

Edit: Added pic of the two new rooms so far.

Ok, well, after all the work in the new grow rooms last night, I forgot to take my Saturday update pics. I just took them now.

Keep in mind that all four of these plants have had nothing but a single 28 watt LED over each of them so far.

Tub 1, (Front Left), is now 12.5" tall



Tub 2, (Rear Left), is now 12.5" tall



Tub 3, (Rear Right), is now 15" tall



Tub 4, (Front Right), is now 9" tall



Here's a shot showing all four tubs



All four plants are still showing no signs of any deficiencies and are growing fantastic side branching. "Shorty", (Tub-4), is catching up to the others and after topping, all four have now recovered and are each growing two main colas and 5 side branches each.

This strain has the nicest side branching of any strain I've grown. On my last harvest, I got quality buds which were dense and fully potent, from the side branches and at the level of the lava rock.

As I replace the nutrient solution that is used, I'm now replacing it with full strength vegging solution. P98BK has one hell of a tolerance for nitrogen. The worst burn I've ever seen on it so far is only the very tips of the leaves. For now, there is no burn what-so-ever as the solution strength migrates from half-strength to full strength GH 3-Part Flora Series nutrients.

This P98BK strain just keeps on impressing me with it's growth, stamina and characteristics.

I can't believe I dropped an LED panel right on top of my plant!

But I did!

Everything is set back up. The plant in Tub-4 got smashed down a bit, but no branches were broken, no leaves torn off.

By this evening or tomorrow morning, the plant should be perked back up and looking good again.

In all these years, I've never done that! You ought to have heard me cuss....haha


EDIT: Crap! Two branches were snapped off. The last crop, I had problems in that tub too. I have a poltergeist in my grow tub!

Oh well, I still got 21 ozs last time with nothing from that tub, so this crop will be about 21 oz too. That works for me.

Awesome stuff. question (and i may be blind) What leds specifically are you using? ebay leds? website? hydro shop? etc

Thanks!

karr said:

Awesome stuff. question (and i may be blind) What leds specifically are you using? ebay leds? website? hydro shop? etc

Thanks!

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These are Sunshine Systems GlowPanel 45 28w Plant Grow Light. I bought mine at $140 each, but they can be found now at $118 each.

I've found them to work perfectly for my need. That need being nothing but vegging my plants until they are 35 days old.

Currently, my best plant is at 19 inches tall, with massive side branching and extremely short inter-nodal length. The plants are in the best of health after 28 days under these lights so far.

I've almost 40 years of growing weed and more than 30 using hydroponics to do so. I'm very impressed with this light.

My goal was to make vegging the least costly as possible. This light has done exactly that. No heat, no air conditioning, great growth with only 110 watts for 4 lights with one light over each plant.

Here's the specs for it:

Technical Specifications:

• Power - 45W (112 x 10mm High Brightness LED)
• Blue - 450-470nm / Red - 630-660nm
• Voltage - 100 / 260v AC (universal power supply)
• Operating Temperature: -4F~ +104F / -20C~ +40C
• Weight - 3 lbs
• Dimensions - 12.25" x 12.25" x 1.2"
• Warranty - 1 year manufacturer's warranty.
• Model: GP1-98567
• Manufactured by: Sunshine Systems LED Grow Lights

http://www.lightbulbsurplus.com/index.php?main_page=ask_a_question&products_id=187&zenid=8be7deb0af2151f50ac1e7f46a039492

Just to clarify my growing methods that I'll be using upon the completion of my two new grow rooms, here is the process I'll be using:

1. Clip cuts from Host Plants and put them into areoponic cloner to root using K-L-N rooting hormones. Root them for 35 days under the 28w LED I'm using. This puts them at about 6" tall with massive roots.

2. Move the clones to the vegging tubs. These tubs are the same in all three of my grow rooms and can be disconnected and moved from room to room. The clones stay 35 days in vegging in this room.

3. Move the tubs to the flowering room and flower for 70 days. Each 35 days, I'll start a new flowering crop from the vegging room.

The plants will move in 35 day increments from rooting to vegging to flowering to harvest.

The plants in the flowering rooms will harvest with alternating 35 days periods.

Well, that's the plan. Until now, I've had the Host Plants and the rooting crammed into the master bath. The vegging and flowering has been done in my only grow room to date on about 70 day cycles.

My new system will double my annual harvest weight.

On a side note, I'm going to build a 30" x 30" x 72" dual LED grow box and attempt a full rooting-vegging-flowering system using nothing but the same 28w LEDs. It'll be interesting to see how it works. I'll be starting another thread for just that grow. I should be starting it in about another month.

Well, as the pics show, the plants have come along nicely. Tub 4, after having an LED panel dropped on it and two branches broken off, has recovered great and I used LST on two of the remaining branches to bring them all to the same height. It's definitely going to be the runt again this crop.

To provide perspective, the tubs the plants are in, are 18.5 inches long and 15.5 inches wide.

Here's the pics for this week:

All four plants:



Tub 1, (Front Left) 14 inches tall.



Tub 2, (Rear Left) 17 inches tall.



Tub 3, (Rear Right) 19 inches tall.



Tub 4, (Front Right) "Shorty" 7 inches tall.



Again, I have to say that the 28w LED panels are working better than I had even hoped. The growth isn't quite as tall as they would have been using an HPS, but what they lack in height, they've gained in branching and staying extremely tight in Inter-Nodal length.

Today is day 29 of 35 that I'll be vegging. October 2nd will be the last day of vegging, and at that point, as I replenish the used nutrient solution, I'll replace it with full strength General Hydroponic 3-Part Flora Series Flowering nutrients. I feel that by doing it this way, it gives each plant a transition period to adjust to the flowering nutrients.

October 3 will be the first day of 12/12 lighting using two 430w Hortilux LU 430S/HTL/EN "Super HPS EN" bulbs. Later in the flowering cycle, when the plants have grown wall to wall, I'll be adding a third light.

what LED lights are you using? brand, mod# i would like to get some for veging.

NM, i just saw the post

I love Pre-98 Bubba. It's some great Kush man. I had a few cuts of her last round and it turned out amazing..Not the heaviest of yields around but you'll be thanking your stash box every time you open it .

HowzerMD said:

I love Pre-98 Bubba. It's some great Kush man. I had a few cuts of her last round and it turned out amazing..Not the heaviest of yields around but you'll be thanking your stash box every time you open it .

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It does have an awesome smell, doesn't it? I have a friend who calls it "Hippy Crack". In 40 years of smoking weed, it's the best I've had of Indicas. I've had a couple Sativa Doms that were as strong, but for Indicas, P98BK is the strongest. Way back in 1979, I smoked a strain of Maui that was off the charts. For the time, that was incredible.

Tomorrow, I start this round of flowering! I'm going to go a full 70 days this time and I'm going to use a flowering enhancer for the first time, during weeks 3-8. I usually average around 0.7 grams/watt, so it'll be interesting to see if it does increase my harvest weight significantly.