Prop215 Grow-Lab Blueprints: SUGGESTIONS WANTED!

Dr Funkenstein

Active Member
Hello everyone! I'm about to set up my Prop 215 Grow-Lab/cab within a closet and I'm looking for as much feedback as possible on my new closet Grow-Lab design. For starters, I'm going to post a few images of the blueprints I have put together to see what kind of response I get. As I get more feedback, I will add more details from my agenda to the post.



ROOM SPLIT ISSUE#1:
Well the totall length of the grow space is 4'/2.5", but I'm not quite sure how I want to divide the space exactly. I know the Flowering Room needs more space to grow and branch out, so that must be bigger than the Vegging Room as depicted. Just unsure of the exact measurements I should go with, that would best fit the number of plants I want to harvest per month. (1/2-Lb. per month, ideally.)

Exaust/Ventilation:
Now I realize the temps must remain fairly similar in both the flowering and vegging rooms, so the current exaust system doesn't appear to be a problem, but considering the humidity levels differ in both grow chambers, I'm wondering if I should either move 'InLine Fan#1' above the grow chamber(or lower 'InLine Fan#3') to exaust the vegging room seperately, to enable more control over humidity levels?

Also, the 'sky-blue' color at the bottom of the grow environment represents the cool air coming thru the intake. The 'red' color represents the flexible ducting that will exaust the hot air. I am debating on whether or not I plan to use a passive intake or non-passive. I am still confused between the differences of the two. My intake will be drawing air from another room on the other side of the closet and I will also be exausting into this room.

Lighting/Electricity:
In the Vegging Room you will see I have my light of choice listed as either a CFL or MH light. Any advice on that would be tremendously helpful. As for the Flowering Room, I am positive I want to use an HPS light, yet still unsure of what size or the number of lights I want to use. I aim to run the most energy efficient system, while producing the most quality medicine I can (without burning the house down)



ROOM SPLIT ISSUE# 2:

Now here is another 'Room Split' issue. The room that my Grow-Lab closet is in has carpeting. Even though I plan on removing the carpet from the closet itself, there will still be carpet right outside the closet space. I have pets, and I am concerned about pests invading my Grow-Lab. So my question is, should the depth of my grow chambers be only 2 ft deep, to allow for a 1ft margin of uncarpeted, sanitized work-space/walking-space before the start of the carpeted room, the closet is in? As shown in the image above? Or should I utilize that extra space, and use it for plant growth? As shown in the following image:

Sure, most would say to sacrifice the sanitary issues, for more plant space, but I also have minor security issues I have to deal with. I'm assuming by leaving 1ft of walk space, I would also have the option of adding more insulation, thus containing any undesirable odors within the grow environment. Or do you think with such a small space, and the level of odor control I have instore, that this will not be a problem?
Also, I must remember that I need room outside of the grown environment to mount my controls and possible breaker box( which I need more help on, obviously) There may be times when I want to monitor things while my babies are sleeping. So I am slightly stumped here.


Thanks for your help. Any help, advice, or suggestions on how I can improve my current designs to be top notch would be extremely appreciated. Help me, and lets watch this project grow. I've been researching things for about 4 months now, read a couple books, spent many nights trolling forums, websites and a grip of videos/tutorials, and hopefully will be ready to launch soon. It's so close I can smell it!


:!::!::!::!::!:

UPDATE:


Details about the grow:

1.

I plan to use an ebb&flow hydroponic system in the flowering room. Possibly a DWC or Aeroponics set up in the Vegging Room.

2.

I will use cuttings, but would also like to experiment with seeds. I hope to be a well rounded gardner. So yes, I plan on having mothers and clones. Im debating on possibly making a seperate cab for mothers and babies, but I think it's highly unlikely. I do not have the space. Unless someone can tell me how easy it is to vent into the ceiling as opposed thru a neighboring wall?

3.

I am unsure of the strains I plan to work with. I know Sativas require a longer flowering time, more headroom, and greater skill, so I am ruling that out for now. So I was thinking a heavy Indica for my insomnia and a well ballanced Hybrid for my Anxiety/Depression. I figure, both will be short, bushy and managable within my grown environment. Let me know if you have any suggestions on which strains would be best for me to start with as a newb gardner?


Here are some of the suggestions I've received:

Someone suggested that I did not need 'InLine Fan#1-2'. Nor did I need the Ozone Treatment box. They said it would almost be 'over-kill'. They suggested a 400cfm fan to extract the volume of the closet. Others have told me I should move 'InLine Fan#3 between the exaust vent and the scrubber, and someone also suggested I stack 'InLine Fan#2 with Fan#3 between the exaust vent and scrubber, to create the negative pressure I need to extract the bad air from the grow chambers, as well as the closet.

What do you think? I may drop 1-2 fans and the Ozone box and raise the roof of the actuall grow chambers up a foot, for more growth space.

Also, I've been advised to go with High Output Fluorescent Tech Lights in my Vegging Room as there will be too much heat to go with an MH with such a small space. And either a 400wHPS, dual 250wHPS, or a 600wHPS for my Flowering Room. Someone said the 600wHPS would be just perfect, and not too warm. I have had an equall response from forum readers to each wattage light, interestingly enough. You can see my dilemma.

Some others have been suggesting I run seperate intakes/exausts to specifically cool the lights and ballast box. The way I have things arranged now, they said the heat from the lights will fry the ballasts within the box. If I was to bypass the ballast box all together, and route the ducting past it, would this change things?


There is my update. Please read thru it and if there is anything you can spot that I overlooked , or that may be improved upon, please let me know. As you can see, I'm getting a lot of great ideas, but a lot of the ideas vary from one to another.


Thanks for your time and consideration, everyone!


Dr Funkenstein bongsmilie
 

Dr Funkenstein

Active Member
Hello everyone! I'm about to set up my Prop 215 Grow-Lab/cab within a closet and I'm looking for as much feedback as possible on my new closet Grow-Lab design. For starters, I'm going to post a few images of the blueprints I have put together to see what kind of response I get. As I get more feedback, I will add more details from my agenda to the post.



ROOM SPLIT ISSUE#1:
Well the totall length of the grow space is 4'/2.5", but I'm not quite sure how I want to divide the space exactly. I know the Flowering Room needs more space to grow and branch out, so that must be bigger than the Vegging Room as depicted. Just unsure of the exact measurements I should go with, that would best fit the number of plants I want to harvest per month. (1/2-Lb. per month, ideally.)

Exaust/Ventilation:
Now I realize the temps must remain fairly similar in both the flowering and vegging rooms, so the current exaust system doesn't appear to be a problem, but considering the humidity levels differ in both grow chambers, I'm wondering if I should either move 'InLine Fan#1' above the grow chamber(or lower 'InLine Fan#3') to exaust the vegging room seperately, to enable more control over humidity levels?

Also, the 'sky-blue' color at the bottom of the grow environment represents the cool air coming thru the intake. The 'red' color represents the flexible ducting that will exaust the hot air. I am debating on whether or not I plan to use a passive intake or non-passive. I am still confused between the differences of the two. My intake will be drawing air from another room on the other side of the closet and I will also be exausting into this room.

Lighting/Electricity:
In the Vegging Room you will see I have my light of choice listed as either a CFL or MH light. Any advice on that would be tremendously helpful. As for the Flowering Room, I am positive I want to use an HPS light, yet still unsure of what size or the number of lights I want to use. I aim to run the most energy efficient system, while producing the most quality medicine I can (without burning the house down)



ROOM SPLIT ISSUE# 2:

Now here is another 'Room Split' issue. The room that my Grow-Lab closet is in has carpeting. Even though I plan on removing the carpet from the closet itself, there will still be carpet right outside the closet space. I have pets, and I am concerned about pests invading my Grow-Lab. So my question is, should the depth of my grow chambers be only 2 ft deep, to allow for a 1ft margin of uncarpeted, sanitized work-space/walking-space before the start of the carpeted room, the closet is in? As shown in the image above? Or should I utilize that extra space, and use it for plant growth? As shown in the following image:

Sure, most would say to sacrifice the sanitary issues, for more plant space, but I also have minor security issues I have to deal with. I'm assuming by leaving 1ft of walk space, I would also have the option of adding more insulation, thus containing any undesirable odors within the grow environment. Or do you think with such a small space, and the level of odor control I have instore, that this will not be a problem?
Also, I must remember that I need room outside of the grown environment to mount my controls and possible breaker box( which I need more help on, obviously) There may be times when I want to monitor things while my babies are sleeping. So I am slightly stumped here.


Thanks for your help. Any help, advice, or suggestions on how I can improve my current designs to be top notch would be extremely appreciated. Help me, and lets watch this project grow. I've been researching things for about 4 months now, read a couple books, spent many nights trolling forums, websites and a grip of videos/tutorials, and hopefully will be ready to launch soon. It's so close I can smell it!


:!::!::!::!::!:

UPDATE:


Details about the grow:

1.

I plan to use an ebb&flow hydroponic system in the flowering room. Possibly a DWC or Aeroponics set up in the Vegging Room.

2.

I will use cuttings, but would also like to experiment with seeds. I hope to be a well rounded gardner. So yes, I plan on having mothers and clones. Im debating on possibly making a seperate cab for mothers and babies, but I think it's highly unlikely. I do not have the space. Unless someone can tell me how easy it is to vent into the ceiling as opposed thru a neighboring wall?

3.

I am unsure of the strains I plan to work with. I know Sativas require a longer flowering time, more headroom, and greater skill, so I am ruling that out for now. So I was thinking a heavy Indica for my insomnia and a well ballanced Hybrid for my Anxiety/Depression. I figure, both will be short, bushy and managable within my grown environment. Let me know if you have any suggestions on which strains would be best for me to start with as a newb gardner?


Here are some of the suggestions I've received:

Someone suggested that I did not need 'InLine Fan#1-2'. Nor did I need the Ozone Treatment box. They said it would almost be 'over-kill'. They suggested a 400cfm fan to extract the volume of the closet. Others have told me I should move 'InLine Fan#3 between the exaust vent and the scrubber, and someone also suggested I stack 'InLine Fan#2 with Fan#3 between the exaust vent and scrubber, to create the negative pressure I need to extract the bad air from the grow chambers, as well as the closet.

What do you think? I may drop 1-2 fans and the Ozone box and raise the roof of the actuall grow chambers up a foot, for more growth space.

Also, I've been advised to go with High Output Fluorescent Tech Lights in my Vegging Room as there will be too much heat to go with an MH with such a small space. And either a 400wHPS, dual 250wHPS, or a 600wHPS for my Flowering Room. Someone said the 600wHPS would be just perfect, and not too warm. I have had an equall response from forum readers to each wattage light, interestingly enough. You can see my dilemma.

Some others have been suggesting I run seperate intakes/exausts to specifically cool the lights and ballast box. The way I have things arranged now, they said the heat from the lights will fry the ballasts within the box. If I was to bypass the ballast box all together, and route the ducting past it, would this change things?


There is my update. Please read thru it and if there is anything you can spot that I overlooked , or that may be improved upon, please let me know. As you can see, I'm getting a lot of great ideas, but a lot of the ideas vary from one to another.


Thanks for your time and consideration, everyone!


Dr Funkenstein bongsmilie

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fat sam

Well-Known Member
i like it so far, what i would do is ditch the cfl's-t5;s in favor of a 250 mh, you only need a little bit of light to grow moms and veg, and just remember, watt for watt floros and cfl;s produce more heat than hid's and an hid is easy to cool with a vented hood, i would vent to rooms seperatly if possible and try and get an extra foot of height in the space by ditching the ozone generator as a carbon filter is more than adequate to keep smells down in a small grow, if you do go with the ozone just remember that it needs to be vented to the outside
 
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