puzzled

got a white widow auto in flower growing in MG soil and have not been fertilized with nothing but MG blue water under 2200 watts of led full spectrum light and it not doing good. what do some of you old country boys think the problem may be with this one. I'm no damn chemist so don't need all this technical fixes. (hahaha) I am leaning more to a nutriagant problem if so what would correct it at this point do you think. Oh BTW, I'm 66 yrs young and definitely by far not my first grow at all but 2nd grow on autos. Gonna try to attach a photo now. Thanks, cigaretteman

Start with the basics. Do you know your pH?

I think they OD'd on blue water. I would give plain water from now on and hope to harvest a couple buds.

eb, no I do not but I really think it may be that and also from all I can seem to dig up on it, it could be needing potassium and potash but I am going for a ph meter in the next day or so and check it. I top water too so could be I have just washed all my chems out too. It is about 6 weeks old plant. probally needs a good flush and all new chems put back in the soil and maybe a pinch extra of #2 and #3 of the big 3. Thanks for helping. Sometimes we just need someone to help us focus on things.

70's natureboy said:

I think they OD'd on blue water. I would give plain water from now on and hope to harvest a couple buds.

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Hahahaha, yepp my first thought exactly but I think its deeper than the blue water. I have had them on aged water for a couple weeks now so prob gonna flush and start my chems over. they are still real young about 6 weeks from seed.

I used to grow in MG blue water for years. It works ok if you don't over-do it.

Kinda rural here so the options are sorta kinda limited and have relied on the old MG to get me some great tomato crops so knew it to be a old stand by. A bit new to indoor but not a 1st timer. Got a couple under my belt. What do you guys use or suggest feeding with? I have tried a few things I have got from the internet but still a old school grower and not into having a arsonal of chemicals sitting around. All that just confuses me, I do know plants need different things at different times, was born and raised a farmer, but sometimes some of you guys get way to technical for me (sorry) and I get lost, haha old wore out mind I guess. Whats good all around to feed with? I got some good bloom buster and some thats different ordered. Nothing but h2o and MG on these though and it was weak too, 2 or3 tbls to 5 gal water so dont think its a burn. Thanks,

Autos are more sensitive than photos, and in MG soil you probably didn't need to add any nutes at all.

That’s nute burn city right there.
Ps mg is no good

323cheezy said:

That’s nute burn city right there.
Ps mg is no good

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Hey Cheezy I'm kinda thinkin I may be on something, that MG soil has nutes and I was doctoring with what I thought was regular blue MG but after a bit of reading the damn label found I had the 24-8-16 blend. I did a flush and drain today and gave it a very weak drink just to keep it alive till it dries out. I did take a lot of the dry leaves off and most of that was all new growth. Anyway we see what happens from here I guess. Just wanted to rou that by ya. Thanks

Sorry if that came out wrong just trying to help
I try to just use fox farm it’s much better for weed plants... fox farm is totally worth it if you can ... just hate to see anyone invest months of time too save a couple bucks on soil. Mg is the kinda non organic stuff that ruins natural product.

There is very little to turn around that Auto . Autos need very little to run and the ratio of npk , is way excessive.
It fried the poor thing. MG soil is not the best for autos as it has CRF ( controlled release fertilizer ) built in it already.
Likely more than enough to run a plant by itself. The problem with MC is that it “ feeds “ every time you water .... leading to burns , excess symptoms , etc.

Once an auto has a detrimental issue plant wide it can stunt , or “ try to flower “ . I run more autos than I care to say and with them
less is more when it comes to feed and maintenance . Autos have zero time to recover from big problems as its lifespan overall is shorter compared to a regular photoperiod plant that can be corrected over weeks.

I did all I knew to do today I flushed everything good by running about 2gal aged water through each of my plants thinking that maybe it could help by washing some the nutes out of the media. Got 3 more early girls that are just now starting to show some sign of the same so just did all of them and now wait and see if they survive or OD on it. The autos are kinda picky. I have always been an outdoor man but inside is a lot less stress on me for sure. And yes sir Budz and Cheezy, I sure have got an education on the MG and the blue water too. Need to find me a dirt dealer now. May dig me some out of a dead stump and use that, haha, but thanks for all the help guys. Always listen you may learn something. All advise is helpful too. Love to hear from experienced folk.