Question on perpetual growing in a small space

ChaosHunter

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Hey all, have a question for the cats who have been growing in small spaces for awhile. Is anyone able to pull off a perpetual grow in a small space ? I'm trying to wrap my head around having a mother plant to take clones off of or take cuttings of cuttings ?

The above is not the issue, the problem I'm having is how you all are maintaining the cuttings or mother plant in a vegetate state for 2+ months while the flower box is flowering ?

Buying or getting clones ?
popping from seed every time "fems" ?

I see the cabinet and grow spaces with a clone veg section and want to know how the hell your keeping plants in such a small space vegging for 2+ months lol
 

HalfBee

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Still working on it, but haven't found the forever strain so don't have any Moms yet.
Research bonsai Mom technique find out about keeping them small and stunted for years.

Much of it is scheduling...
10 days for clones to root
10 days top at 3rd node for manifold
10 days top again for 8 heads
30 day veg before flip

That should kill a couple months while flower room is full...
Any other training can add time to preflower, scrog, trellis, etc...
 

a senile fungus

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How small of a space are you talking?

Perpetual can be done in small spaces. Maybe two 4x4s for flowering and 3x3 for veg? You fill up veg for a month, then move that to a flower room 1. Fill up veg again and in a month move it to flower 2. Fill up veg again and when flower 1 is harvested (~8wks) you move that veg into flower 1 and refill veg again for when flower 2 is ready, and so on.

Make sense?

Or a 2x2 for veg and 3x3s for flower,.etc. it.can be done.
 

ChaosHunter

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I know how to do it with 2x2 spaces and larger that's not the problem. I see the cabinet, armoire builds along with "Super cabinet" advertised on this site. Yet I haven't found a grow journal or video where someone continues to Veg perpetually in such a small space. After a clone roots it gets up potted to say a solo cup and up from there. In these small "Veg" chambers I'm interested how growers are keeping the small veg plants for 6-12 weeks.

Take cuttings from the cuttings after 4+ weeks ?
 

Observe & Report

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I keep sixteen moms in solo cups with blumats in a 17.5L x 17.5W x 21H space. Repot the moms every year or two but my oldest mom is only three years. Go on vacation for 3-4 weeks at a time, no problem, just trim 'em up real good before leaving.

I have another equally small space for rooting cuts and vegging pots before putting into the flower chamber. I can veg 3-4 pots at a time and still have some room and the edges for rooting cuts.

I plant seeds into cups in the mother chamber and cut them when they get big enough. When running reg seeds for the first time I always cut and eventually pot known females for use when the seeds show male so there are no holes in my grow.
 

grouch

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I've been running a small cab perpetually for years and it works great most of the time. Sometimes I miss my timing when taking clones and there are small gaps in the flower room. Most of this could be solved with more room so I could make extra plants and discard the ones I don't need.

My veg area is 8"x11"x18" and flower is 20"x11"x29". I usually try and flip one plant every 3 weeks and can pull 15-20 grams per plant. I keep one mom "bonsai style" and use a small vermiculite cloner. I take clones about ten days before I harvest a plant. I put the clones into their final soil pot as soon as I can move the previous vegging plant into the flower area.

This gets me about an ounce a month and I really don't need more than that.
 

Stealthgrowr80

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I have always just taken a clone of each plant the day it goes into flower, then when the clone starts new growth immediately top it, immediately after it recovers super crop it, as soon as it recovers transplant it each thing shocks the plant buying you enough time on a spot to open up to rotate giving you a short bushy well rooted tough stemmed plant to go into flower with. I currently have 18 plants rotating in my newest cabinet. 6 in flower 6 in veg 6 in clone.... every 10 days I rotate on average.
 

Gaz29

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I have only a 3x3 tent in which I flower 4/5 photos' @ a time and put my clones seedlings auto's etc round the sides.. i then take the vegging & auto's out @ lights off and stick them on heat mats under cfls and daylight til lights on etc.. i take cuttings of cuttings and have two different strains I've kept for the past 16 months or so..( bn perpetual roughly 5yrs now)..
I regularly pop regs and fems,even doing a couple of auto's just now..
Here's a few pics of sum of what's happening in my tent just now (7.30pm/7.30am -lights on.)
Happy growing
Gaz
 

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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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I've been looking into this also, I have a 4x4 flower tent and a 2x1 veg box. The only way I can figure it is to use super short flower time indicas, take clones off the plants 2 weeks into flower, leaving me only 5-6 weeks to dick around with the clones in the veg box. So not too bad there between week and half Rooting, and topping the clones. Biggest issue for me is fitting enough pot space for the 4 plants in the 2x1 so they don't get root bound before I harvest the flower tent
 

Dr.Green.treats

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man I've been wanting to do the same thing! my plan was to just take clones from a mom plant and then flower the small clones to just try and get one big cola from each plant. if I can do that in my small grow tent, I think I can put about 8 plants in there at once....still working out the details lol.
 

a senile fungus

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You can take cuttings , bag them, and put them in the veggie section of the fridge, they'll stay fresh for weeks, but are slower to start back up once "thawed".

Could take cuttings, put them in fridge, and in a few wees revive them and root normally...

Might help someone with timings
 

Dr.Green.treats

Active Member
You can take cuttings , bag them, and put them in the veggie section of the fridge, they'll stay fresh for weeks, but are slower to start back up once "thawed".

Could take cuttings, put them in fridge, and in a few wees revive them and root normally...

Might help someone with timings
Really?? Just cut them and put them in the fridge?? Do you dip in water first, or any rooting hormone?
 
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