Raspberry/Strawberry help

Ok, so I love raspberries and have decided that 7.99 is a ridiculous price to pay for something I should by all rights be growing for dirt cheap. My question, is how do I start the flowering/fruiting process for raspberries? Will it start after I chill the roots for the needed time? Is it a 12/12 photoperiod like marijuana? Is it timed some other way? I can't seem to find any help on indoor growing this since it's only recently lighting (at least LEDs that I use) have gotten efficient so there seems to be a vacuum of info. Any ideas? I'd accept similar info for strawberries. I'd be indoors under a tent, just need to know what starts the flowering/fruiting process.

As far as I know they don't need the whole 12/12

with all the wiki info out there you should have no problem finding detailed growing information. they can be bought in nurseries or mail order. the plants grow like weeds. rapidly and abundantly. just plant them in normal moist, fertile, well drained garden soil and provide support for them as they will natutally bend over and be on the ground if you dont. and it makes harvesting easier. you will probably have to wait till next year before you harvest anything substantial. they never seem to make it into the house when i'm around a fruiting raspberry or blackberry. i eat them right off the canes they were born on. i just can't wait. same with grape tomatoes.

Yes I'm well versed in the difference between primocane and floricane varieties however Im growing indoors. None of the info online tells you specifically what starts the flowering process so it can be replicated indoors. 6 pages in on google I'm seeing all purple from previously visited pages so this isn't a spur of the moment post. I know the soil they need, care the roots need and how to make them survive. What I DON'T know is the biological switch that starts flowering or fruiting.

I'm, pretty sure its caused by one of the following:
1. Root chill
2. Pollination
3. Photoperiod
4. Temperature

What I need is someone who has grown them indoors (or other berries) or someone who knows raspberries like the back of your hand.

idk that there is one. they're not photo sensitive. like cannabis or pointsettias. they don't depend on the length of dark hours to bloom. my guess is that when the buds are set, they bloom. here where i live that is usually in mid summer. solstice. i don't even know off hand if they bloom on old wood, or new wood.

Toolage 87 said:

As far as I know they don't need the whole 12/12

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So what DO they need?

Yea it's funny I have relatives in Minnesota with beehives, orchards, more fruiting plants than I can name and I called asking for advice and they had zero idea. Apparently nobody else rents apartments or is afraid of bees and grows indoors haha

I don't see growing berries indoors as a good plan. I know berries thrive on being able to invade space. I found a half dead blackberry vine. Planted it and it has taken over the banks of a stream. I think Kiwi, or strawberries would be better. Just my opinion.

BubbaGum said:

So what DO they need?

Yea it's funny I have relatives in Minnesota with beehives, orchards, more fruiting plants than I can name and I called asking for advice and they had zero idea. Apparently nobody else rents apartments or is afraid of bees and grows indoors haha

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Some plants from herbs that I have grown they will flower even if they are on 24/0 hour lighting scheduled so it can be the same for fruits and veggies to.

raspberries are just like a ruderal or an auto they go by age of growth. when spring hits the light cycle get longer during the summer. i have wild rasberries and black berries, neither of them bloom fruit before the end of june. pollination deosnt matter on the rass n blackberries. they will fruit up on there own time. just grow in soil like you would anything else and just let them do there thing..as far as strawberries they are a bit different. they do the same but on a different light schedule. just put your timer on a 16 hr schedule and you will be just fine.. no bee's or pollination needed. i do a blueberry bush inside with me strawberries all my ras and blackberries are wild and usually bloom and fruit at the end of june early july..

bass1014 said:

raspberries are just like a ruderal or an auto they go by age of growth. when spring hits the light cycle get longer during the summer. i have wild rasberries and black berries, neither of them bloom fruit before the end of june. pollination deosnt matter on the rass n blackberries. they will fruit up on there own time. just grow in soil like you would anything else and just let them do there thing..as far as strawberries they are a bit different. they do the same but on a different light schedule. just put your timer on a 16 hr schedule and you will be just fine.. no bee's or pollination needed. i do a blueberry bush inside with me strawberries all my ras and blackberries are wild and usually bloom and fruit at the end of june early july..

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My man. Thanks a ton, and for everyone else who responded. Much appreciated fellas.

X amount of days to mature then harvest for strawberries and raspberries. The step-father has a 2800 acre farm with 10 of it being strawberries. He told me it was so many days to mature and he also plants different varieties to allow for a staggered harvest so he can have a harvest season lasting a month, instead of everything ripping at once all in the same week. Being a farmer trying to have the best crop he picks the blossoms off the first year allowing the plant to put more of its energy into growing filling out the row instead of fruiting that first year. He was more than happy to answer my question so if you need anymore info let me know.

I have a raspberry patch that was growing on the property when I bought the house, I pick from it every year and do nothing to it, it grows wild. I pick from it every year over a period of two week at the same time each year, the 1st of July. It seems that there are new plants every year that don't produce until the next and then they die, so it kind of sounds like a two year life cycle, I have to start paying closer attention I guess!!

Oh yeah bees, flies, spiders, ants or any other tiny critters carrying pollen including a small paint brush will be needed for pollination or at least providing a better chance there of!!

i used to have a strawberry plant in my veg tent and it vegged, then i moved it to my flower tent and it fruited. fruiting takes a while, and fails a fair fit. as far as i can tell it requires pollination so you have to touch all over the plant and get the pollen to the correct spots, but thats not hard. if you dont the flowers never turn to berries though and thats what i mean by the fruiting can fail a fair bit. for me, the fruits ripened super fast, like in a day. i have no clue why but it was a little frustrating to have strawberrys the size of my pinky fingernail fully ripe an going bad if not picked that day, but also kinda cool.
that was about 3 years ago.
now i have another strawberry plant i put into flower again, and it too produced ripe berrys in about 1-2 days that were super small. i moved that plant outside and now it it making large berrys and they are taking over a week to ripen. i have no clue why they are doing this for me but its interesting

plant in well prepped soil and leave alone one year you should have a light yield mulch and you should be good to grow I mean go!!!

go with strawberries indoors, in hanging growers. a cascade of berries. you will neva-eva grow canes indoors, and if you did, it would cost less to buy them, imo.