Red states mull higher taxes

Padawanbater2

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"Legislators in some of the nation’s most conservative states are considering new ways to boost revenue — including tax increases — after years of deep cuts and a global commodity bust that has robbed them of billions of anticipated dollars.

With legislators returning to capitals across the country this week, key budget negotiators are considering a range of ways to boost revenue, including higher gas taxes, sales tax on internet purchases, new fees and even lotteries.

The debates come as the incoming Trump administration and Republicans in Congress craft proposals for federal tax reform.

It is a reversal, in many ways, of recent trends toward deep tax cuts, led by states like Kansas, where Gov. Sam Brownback (R) and the Republican-dominated legislature slashed rates on individuals and businesses in hopes of spurring economic growth. Kansas now faces a $350 million budget hole this year, and a likely $600 million gap next year.
This year, a coalition of centrist Republicans and Democrats are plotting new tax hikes to plug those holes. The legislature is likely to roll back a tax cut on small businesses Brownback signed in 2012, while also raising gas taxes."

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So Republicans campaign on "cutting taxes", cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations, then when the inevitable hole emerges that tax policy leaves behind, the Republican solution is to raise taxes on the poor and middle-class

Thoughts on this?
 

ttystikk

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"Legislators in some of the nation’s most conservative states are considering new ways to boost revenue — including tax increases — after years of deep cuts and a global commodity bust that has robbed them of billions of anticipated dollars.

With legislators returning to capitals across the country this week, key budget negotiators are considering a range of ways to boost revenue, including higher gas taxes, sales tax on internet purchases, new fees and even lotteries.

The debates come as the incoming Trump administration and Republicans in Congress craft proposals for federal tax reform.

It is a reversal, in many ways, of recent trends toward deep tax cuts, led by states like Kansas, where Gov. Sam Brownback (R) and the Republican-dominated legislature slashed rates on individuals and businesses in hopes of spurring economic growth. Kansas now faces a $350 million budget hole this year, and a likely $600 million gap next year.
This year, a coalition of centrist Republicans and Democrats are plotting new tax hikes to plug those holes. The legislature is likely to roll back a tax cut on small businesses Brownback signed in 2012, while also raising gas taxes."

Full story here


So Republicans campaign on "cutting taxes", cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations, then when the inevitable hole emerges that tax policy leaves behind, the Republican solution is to raise taxes on the poor and middle-class

Thoughts on this?
Those vultures are circling overhead...

Can't raise corporate taxes because they bribe the politicians by contributing to their campaign funding!

Can't raise taxes on the wealthy because they RUN those corporations!

Our entire economy is a house of cards- and there's one hell of a storm coming.
 

Blunted 4 lyfe

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I really love the irony in this story I'm wondering how long its gonna take for most Trump supporters to realize that they were conned and then you have those idiots who will never admit that they were conned at all. This year is going to be the year we're all going to hear how many idiots live in this Country.
 

ttystikk

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I wonder what the Republicans who voted for Trump based on his tax policy will say about this shell game the Republicans are trying to pull when they hear about it

Establishment politics: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses
Also known as decoupling the profits from their consequences, or engineered lack of accountability.

...TRAGEDY OF THE COMMONS.
 

SneekyNinja

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It's such a good thing Trump won instead of Clinton...

I mean who'd want taxes to go up on the ultra rich instead of down?

Who'd want Obamacare improved upon rather than repealed?

Who wants tax cuts for the middle class and extra assistance for the poor?

Who'd want cheaper college education?
 

schuylaar

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I wonder what the Republicans who voted for Trump based on his tax policy will say about this shell game the Republicans are trying to pull when they hear about it

Establishment politics: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses
They would have to want to understand it first.
 

NLXSK1

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I wonder what the Republicans who voted for Trump based on his tax policy will say about this shell game the Republicans are trying to pull when they hear about it

Establishment politics: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses
Donald Trump has nothing to do with the states and what taxes they choose to levy. You seem to think it is a coordinated act and I do not believe it is.

According to the tax plan I heard, individuals get up to 25,000 tax free and married couples get the first 50,000 tax free. Now, that doesnt sound like it is beating up on the poor or middle class in that respect.

Rich people provide jobs which are seriously needed in America right now.

Obama had his 8 years of less than 2% growth and low employment participation. Lets see how the other way works. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs... That is what America needs right now.
 

HAF2

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Donald Trump has nothing to do with the states and what taxes they choose to levy. You seem to think it is a coordinated act and I do not believe it is.

According to the tax plan I heard, individuals get up to 25,000 tax free and married couples get the first 50,000 tax free. Now, that doesnt sound like it is beating up on the poor or middle class in that respect.

Rich people provide jobs which are seriously needed in America right now.

Obama had his 8 years of less than 2% growth and low employment participation. Lets see how the other way works. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs... That is what America needs right now.
Where do you think these new jobs are going to come from? You don't really believe he's going to "bring manufacturing jobs back" to an extent that will make any difference at all?
5 million jobs lost since the year 2000 in manufacturing. I will tell you right now, he's not going to make a difference in that loss. Robots took many of these manufacturing jobs and they're not coming back.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/29/news/economy/us-manufacturing-jobs/

Trade likely sped up the shift, but many experts say it was inevitable. It's unlikely many manufacturing jobs will ever return, even if Trump's walls get built.

"Trump's talk on trade is bluster," says economist Charles Ballard of Michigan State University. "Even if you did [what Trump says], you wouldn't reverse the technology, which is a very big part of the picture."

Trump's threat to put hefty taxes on Chinese and Mexican goods coming into the country would likely to sink the economy into a recession. It would make many items at the store more expensive for working class Americans and spark a global trade war.

The U.S. tried this tactic in the 1930s with a law known as Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. It backfired, pulling the U.S. further into the Great Depression.

Trump really needs to start blaming the robots for all Americas problems so he can build a wall around Skynet. He's such a liar.
 

londonfog

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Where do you think these new jobs are going to come from? You don't really believe he's going to "bring manufacturing jobs back" to an extent that will make any difference at all?
5 million jobs lost since the year 2000 in manufacturing. I will tell you right now, he's not going to make a difference in that loss. Robots took many of these manufacturing jobs and they're not coming back.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/29/news/economy/us-manufacturing-jobs/

Trade likely sped up the shift, but many experts say it was inevitable. It's unlikely many manufacturing jobs will ever return, even if Trump's walls get built.

"Trump's talk on trade is bluster," says economist Charles Ballard of Michigan State University. "Even if you did [what Trump says], you wouldn't reverse the technology, which is a very big part of the picture."

Trump's threat to put hefty taxes on Chinese and Mexican goods coming into the country would likely to sink the economy into a recession. It would make many items at the store more expensive for working class Americans and spark a global trade war.

The U.S. tried this tactic in the 1930s with a law known as Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. It backfired, pulling the U.S. further into the Great Depression.

Trump really needs to start blaming the robots for all Americas problems so he can build a wall around Skynet. He's such a liar.
@NLXSK1 is plenty slow when it comes to business and what it takes to be a success. He really thinks Trump is about to bring back jobs. He also believes that he will soon be making 288,000 as a home inspector.
NLXSK1 is like our little RIU failure ignorant member.
 

HAF2

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@NLXSK1 is plenty slow when it comes to business and what it takes to be a success. He really thinks Trump is about to bring back jobs. He also believes that he will soon be making 288,000 as a home inspector.
NLXSK1 is like our little RIU failure ignorant member.
It does seem that trump supporters all have come on hard times. Well, besides the rich assholes that really wanted him in so he could cut their taxes and help them get richer.
Also, why would anyone believe what he says? He's been a proven liar with making his taxes public, locking Hilary up, building a wall, starting a Muslim registry, and saying Russia is not to blame for interfering with the election. Why then choose to believe that anything he says holds water? It's madness.
 

NLXSK1

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@NLXSK1 is plenty slow when it comes to business and what it takes to be a success. He really thinks Trump is about to bring back jobs. He also believes that he will soon be making 288,000 as a home inspector.
NLXSK1 is like our little RIU failure ignorant member.
You like to keep telling us what your version of reality is. Like - Trump is never going to be president.... That one is still funneh!!!
 

HAF2

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You like to keep telling us what your version of reality is. Like - Trump is never going to be president.... That one is still funneh!!!
Yeah that's a win for the American people for sure. Have fun seeing his every campaign promise fall to the wayside while him and his rich buddies reap the benifits of his new tax plan. I hope your anus is lubed up because he's coming in dry.
 

NLXSK1

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Yeah that's a win for the American people for sure. Have fun seeing his every campaign promise fall to the wayside while him and his rich buddies reap the benifits of his new tax plan. I hope your anus is lubed up because he's coming in dry.
You like to keep telling us what your version of reality is. Like - Trump is never going to be president.... That one is still funneh!!!
 
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