Republicans

Well now Let me start a fire. For the last 6-8 years the Republicans have been in power in our capital. That means that no laws get passed unless approved by the Republican majority and the only laws that get passed benefit them, with a Republican president, that means everything done by the U.S. govt. since at least 2000 has been done by Republicans. ( for those of you that don't know our system, there are 2 partys that control our Govt. the other one is the Democratic party, with no control since 2000) My question is this: do you think the U.S. and the world is better off now than in the 1990s? I will answer my opinion later!

"I will answer my opinion later!"

Has "later" gotten here yet? So far, you haven't "answered your opinion."

Vi

Dankdude said:

We were better off before the current administration.

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In what ways?

Vi

IN All ways!

Let's see,
Since the Bush has been in office there has been a steady decline in the middle class.
We had wiped out the national debt under the Clinton Administration.
Who ever the Next president is will have to make a Tax increase that would make Clinton's Tax Increase look like a drop in the bucket in order to undo the damage that the Fiscal Irresponsibility that has been shown under Bush's watch.

I can go on, but there is a limit as to how many words can be posted per post. so I will limit my comment here for the time being.

well said dank

No, not well said at all. Nothing was documented and errors were made. For example, Dank is confusing the year-to-year budget defict with the national debt. The national debt is the on-going, overall debt. Honesty would be the admission that the Democrats had power in this country for over 50 years and they grew the national debt all along the way.

Since the Bush tax cuts, productivity has skyrocketed. The increased revenue (taxes) from that productivity has cut the budget deficit almost in half. The remaining debt reflects the expenditures of the Iraq war.

If the Democrats take power during the next election cycle and raise the income tax rates as Dank suggests, the economic boom will end and we will enter into a recession. Can ya say "Jimmy Carter?"

I don't support Bush's immigration policies or his inability to find his veto pen.

Other than that, I think the Dankster is right on. *lol*

Vi

bull! I mean Bullshiza! Your documentation reeks of right wing Bullshiza, I don't know who makes up your "facts", but he should be de-capitated as his head is not working. All you have to do is look at the big picture and you'll see how much worse the country is now than when your Darling Bushhole took office. Don't bother to pepper me with your "facts" as I don't believe a word you post! By the way, genius, Where is your documentation that ther were not 650,000 Iraqis killed since mar. 2003? Ignoring that one aren't you!

"It's the economy, stupid!"

Vi

PS: Why post the same question in several different threads? If you do a search through my posts today, you'll find that I've answered your 650,000 question.

The only people doing better in this economy are the wealthy. Health care costs have doubled since Bushole took office, corporate profits are attrociously (obscenely) high, while layoffs continue at a horrible rate. I'm too tired of discussing the economy to continue. If you are doing well, I guess that's all that matters! fuck the rest of America, the workers, Right, they're all commies anyway!

Dude ... !!!

You continue to blast the economy without providing any proof of what you're saying. Every economic indicator is through the roof. Maybe its the fact that you're retired and haven't kept up with the business world or something. The honest-to-God facts are; business is booming, employment is at a 30-year-high, oil prices are dropping, housing starts are up, the DOW topped 12,000 for the first time in history yesterday, and interest rates are at near record lows.

If you have indicators that show the opposite, please post them. Not dissing you here ... just ferreting out the truth of the matter. Thanks ...

Vi

I'm sorry I have no facts to counter you on this. I'm sure the business world is doing well. And now that I know that you are one of those responsible for the extravagant price of housing in Ca., I'm sure you're doing well also. ( 3% of 500,000 is more than 3% of 100,000 hence the surge in real estate prices over the last ten years, the real estate salesmen, being ever greedy, told people to list their houses at an over inflated value and through collusion with other agents caused the price of a single family residence to be out of the American dream. I hope all you greedy real estate people are happy, a middle class family can now not afford a house unless they had a trade in from years ago when 100,000 would buy you a decent house, and for kids starting out, the dream is dead! Who in the world can afford a $500,000+ house in Watts, you've certainly cashed in while eliminating any chance for a young couple to buy their first home. My hope is that the real estate market will crash and all the greedy investors will take it up the old kazoo. Peace, you greed monger!

All I know is when Clinton was in office I was working and making around $50k a year. And everyone I knew was doing well also. I dont know this as fact but I think unemployment was close to a record high. I struggled for a few years shortly after 9/11. Lost my house of 6 years. And am now starting to get back on my feet. I hear the economy is doing good right now but fuck its taken long enough. I am a little lost as to why things are getting so much better these days and why now? Maybe someone can explain it.

I believe it's made up by the elitests. What happened to all those 12.00-25.00 an hour jobs that dissapeared from all those layoffs the last 6 years? The lucky ones got a 10.00 an hour job and the rest got 5.00-8.00 an hour or no jobs at all. After your 3 mo. federal unemployment extension A total of 9 mos. you are out of the statistics and the forgotten millions not counted in G.W.s full employment statistics. The Bush admin. refused to do any more federal unemployment extensions and just let the workers rot, lost jobs, lost healthcare, lost retirement. The Bush admin. has caused more loss in living conditions and lives (Iraq-Afganistan) than anyone except maybe Nixon in this country. I realize there have been worse leaders like Hitler, Stalin etc that caused more shit, but Bush is right up there, 650,000 dead Iraqis, 3,000+ dead Americans 20,000+ wounded, half life changing, amputees etc. Most of us, "the middle class" had it a lot better under Bill Clinton! I was making 21.00 an hour and bought my house for 98,000, now you make 10.00 an hour and houses are 350-500 grand. (Are we better off?) Instead of impeaching him, they should have given him a medal for getting a blow job from a 21 year old intern, I say hooya! Instead, the uptight freaky Republicans that probably couldn't get it up unless it was a young boy giving the blow job, Impeached him for lying about it. What would you do? lie of course! I think Bush has done a lot more horrendous things to be Impeached about than Bill Clinton. Just my opinion!

medicinaluseonly said:

I'm sorry I have no facts to counter you on this. I'm sure the business world is doing well. And now that I know that you are one of those responsible for the extravagant price of housing in Ca., I'm sure you're doing well also. ( 3% of 500,000 is more than 3% of 100,000 hence the surge in real estate prices over the last ten years, the real estate salesmen, being ever greedy, told people to list their houses at an over inflated value and through collusion with other agents caused the price of a single family residence to be out of the American dream. I hope all you greedy real estate people are happy, a middle class family can now not afford a house unless they had a trade in from years ago when 100,000 would buy you a decent house, and for kids starting out, the dream is dead! Who in the world can afford a $500,000+ house in Watts, you've certainly cashed in while eliminating any chance for a young couple to buy their first home. My hope is that the real estate market will crash and all the greedy investors will take it up the old kazoo. Peace, you greed monger!

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Not only do you not have any facts, but in the above post, you have revealed just how completley ignorant you are on economic matters. You have no concept what-so-ever of how markets work. When housing prices go down, are the real estate salespeople responsible for that also? Dude, you are sooo far out there in left field, you're hopeless.

Try an evening economics 101 class at your local high school. I really believe that will help you.

Vi

Widow Maker said:

All I know is when Clinton was in office I was working and making around $50k a year. And everyone I knew was doing well also. I dont know this as fact but I think unemployment was close to a record high. I struggled for a few years shortly after 9/11. Lost my house of 6 years. And am now starting to get back on my feet. I hear the economy is doing good right now but fuck its taken long enough. I am a little lost as to why things are getting so much better these days and why now? Maybe someone can explain it.

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I can explain it in three words:


Vi

Dankdude said:

Bush's Tax Cuts will put this nation into the poor house.

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Dank ...

Have you checked the latest figures on the YEARLY budget deficit?

Vi

I hate to say it Red but you know how I am, So I'll mellow my statement with one half of what I think of your mindless rhetoric, Bull!