Retro LED Users

Gingeroot

Gingeroot

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Anyone else still rockin/hoarding retro LEDs? Packin some shit up for a cross country move and had to take a pic of all my tried and true LEDs of 4-5 years!

2 x Area 51 RW-150s (not upgraded of course)
2 x Kessil H350 Magentas (so underrated)
and 1 Bloom Boss 150/300w

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I wonder what the efficiency/heat diff would be if I switched to quantum's...might have to if these are too hot for the desert but in the meantime I'm gonna ride em till the diodes fall off :)
 
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Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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Man. That's an easy $400 of upgrades to get a full setup of brand new QBs for what you got there. You only need about 60-75% of the wattage you've got total there to do the same thing.
 
Airwalker16

Airwalker16

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Would like to know your reasoning as to why Kessils are underrated. You'd need like 20-30 of them to adequately light even a 4X4..
 
Gingeroot

Gingeroot

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Airwalker16 said:
Would like to know your reasoning as to why Kessils are underrated. You'd need like 20-30 of them to adequately light even a 4X4..
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I'd say 5 in a dice pattern


Norml56 said:
I bet with the money a lot of early LED users spent on these garbage lights I could pay for the electric bill for several years on a 1k HPS :wink:
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Agree to a point. That's why I'd only buy deals or used dirt cheap. Still work fine and have always produced after almost 5 years without replacing anything, so "garbage" is troll talk. I couldn't imagine ever going back to good ol tried and true HPS...and that's coming from a looong time horti user.
coreywebster said:
All fully operational too.

What did those puppies cost you back in the long ago?
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All together $850. The two panels were the only new ones.

These were all veg or supplemental flower lights in the beginning. I did several runs with the mix just to see what straight LEDs would produce...slightly less frost/terps imo but still quality. Back to using them for veg and supplemental lighting for my CMH. Unless LEDs can figure out how to up their UV. Which I prob just need to research more.
 
Norml56

Norml56

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Gingeroot said:
I'd say 5 in a dice pattern



Agree to a point. That's why I'd only buy deals or used dirt cheap. Still work fine and have always produced after almost 5 years without replacing anything, so "garbage" is troll talk. I couldn't imagine ever going back to good ol tried and true HPS...and that's coming from a looong time horti user.

All together $850. The two panels were the only new ones.

These were all veg or supplemental flower lights in the beginning. I did several runs with the mix just to see what straight LEDs would produce...slightly less frost/terps imo but still quality. Back to using them for veg and supplemental lighting for my CMH. Unless LEDs can figure out how to up their UV. Which I prob just need to research more.
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Sorry but $850 for supplemental lighting is garbage. You could buy 3 CMH setups for that cost and if only ran in flower the bulbs will last almost 5 yrs and still be putting out 85%
 
Powertech

Powertech

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Have a source for something that is UVB and UVC? Not wanting the UVA, it doesn't really help the trichomes much
 
Norml56

Norml56

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Airwalker16 said:
Now that's not true is it?
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From the growers house website - Superior color quality. Crisp white light. Incredibly high 1.95 PPF (photosynthetic photon flux) per watt per second light source. 3100k color temperature, High 92cri, 33,000 initial lumens (105Lm/W). High 90% lumen maintenance at 8,000 hr / High 85% PPF maintenance at 20,000 hr. Unique Open Rated Lamp construction reduces radiant heat from the arc tube and is suitable for open fixture use.

Cost of 3 complete setups - 876 Without shopping around. I'm sure you could drop that cost by 200 or more if you bought the hoods separate and shopped around for bulbs. You could also just ditch the hood altogether and run these bulbs open which you could do for about 100 bucks if you had to buy sockets and adapters new.
 
Gingeroot

Gingeroot

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Norml56 said:
Sorry but $850 for supplemental lighting is garbage. You could buy 3 CMH setups for that cost and if only ran in flower the bulbs will last almost 5 yrs and still be putting out 85%
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Yeahhhh hindsight's 20/20 :dunce:

Ever take a risk? Ever buy new tech and then laugh years later at how bad and slow the original was?

I made that $850 back idk how many times and I know how to use the future of lighting which is worth way more!
 
Gingeroot

Gingeroot

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Can't help but bump this since I profited ever more by selling all but the Bloom Boss Fusion 600 (think it's an old original version that I've not found much info on..nor used at all) ((basically gifted to me and sat)) (((has a 150w veg and 300w bloom modes)))

Currently running in a 2x2/3' veg closet and maybe even flower. Was 24" away in veg mode and I think that was too intense (I'll post pics of lil leaves later today if anyone wants to see) ((There's another interesting thread on here I'll paste later with the same light intensity issue but in bloom))

Backed lights off to 30" still in veg (maybe someone can help with the original's spectrum) Running some solid hybrid genetics and some 1979 Xmas bud that's not so solid loll...stay safe and smoke good everyone!

Long side note: upgrading to all boards and moving on from my 315w philips...sadly. Absolutely love the final product but loathe the spread.. even on the open vert hood (only way imo) ((or evening better a bare bulb vert set up??) The UV and full spectrum w/18" penetration made me see what I want in an LED...MINUS that stretchy ass far red...at first?? No clue on what boards yet. No DIY here just because it was a phase for me earlier.
 
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