Sannie's Ms Universe anyone? Sounds like the best strain ever.

Anyone grown this out. I think it's rather new. Claims to have some phenos over 35%!!!

http://www.sanniesshop.com/ms.universe.html?currency=USD


Lineage: Dess*Tar x Space Queen F3

Parental Information
Our Dess*tar (Starship x Kail Mist) Mother used for this cross is a very unique sativa dominant plant with an indica structure..... The Dess*tar is extremely stable and has high resistance to disease and pests.. She also has such a high THC content that it will leave a resinous film in your mouth upon exhale... her scents and flavors range from hash oil, caramel, pineapple and haze... This plant can be considered a mild psychedelic..

The male Space Queen F3's sweetness makes the perfect complimentary partner to the Dess*star's overbearing potency.... This male has a nice branchy structure that does not stretch as much as the SQ F2 Male used in previous crosses..

The Dess*tar is dominant in the Ms.Universe..

Sativa Dominant

Bloom Length:
9-10weeks,..

Phenotypes;
All phenos are extremely greasy and resinous... There are also many shades of color that will show up in the gene pool..

***Very High Potency on this strain.

Pheno #1 (40%) xmas tree structure, smells and flavors or pineapple/hashy caramel/haze with hints of berry. 9 week bloom, PM resistant, and tight inter-nodal spacing. 1x stretch..

Pheno #2 (30%) by far the sweetest pheno, she expresses more cherry/berry than the others. slightly more indica with this pheno, but still sativa dom.. 1.5x stretch

Pheno #3 (10%) has the most stretch and longest bloom time.. Although she is more rare, I have grown her and love her! She grows foxtails/dreadlocks towards mid/late bloom... Expect smells and flavors ranging from cherry/pineapple/haze/vanilla.. 2x stretch

Pheno #4 (20%) identical to Pheno #1 in every way, but has mostly a hazy smell.. Very good pheno for stealth grows.

professor p is (imo) a super farmer & asset to the community. most of y'all just dont know.

if im not mistaken he worked on a few freebie for sannie... maybe even the mad shack im playing with now (fastest rooter in the history of cut taking by the way).

however there are no claims of 30%+ thc ...he notes 20% ...you get a big fat >F< for reading comprehension.

mrs universe looks sick but i like the carmel kush (og leaning) offering myself.

i like kali mist a lot and offered to buy an eigth for $120 when i blazed it, but after growing my own, it's not even in my top 3 strains. the speedy and clear headed buzz isn't as fun as more balanced strains that have higher psychoactivity and that you can chill to tunes or movies etc. on. the buzz is just too specific. i was a little disappointed that i couldn't get the "is it live or is it memorex?" effect on the tunes i couldn't sit still long enough to enjoy and instead cleaned house on kali. i do love it's spicy flavor though.

C99 (at least joey weed's discontinued version) has a very similar buzz in a much ore indoor friendly strain.

i have no experience with the other strain, but i would only grow KM (i still have 1 bean) if i had more balanced gear too or wanted to loose 100 pounds in a week. LOL

trippier haze skunk is a much more 24/7 friendly buzz and the psycoactivity makes stuff stimulate your senses in a way KM is too clearheaded to do. i think of it as 100% work & activities weed

hazey grapes said:

i like kali mist a lot and offered to buy an eigth for $120 when i blazed it, but after growing my own, it's not even in my top 3 strains. the speedy and clear headed buzz isn't as fun as more balanced strains that have higher psychoactivity and that you can chill to tunes or movies etc. on. the buzz is just too specific. i was a little disappointed that i couldn't get the "is it live or is it memorex?" effect on the tunes i couldn't sit still long enough to enjoy and instead cleaned house on kali. i do love it's spicy flavor though.

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Kali mist is 90% sativa, Serious Seeds never claimed it was balanced or trippy. If you're looking for something chill or with a more stationary buzz, maybe you're not the sativa fan you once thought you were .

Going I Run a few selections from Sannie Shop this go around: Chocolate Rain, Ms Universe, Sugar Punch, love this dude's genetics and service. Both top notch, will be doing my first journal with these strains. I think I'm going to just stick with his genetics for the future.

Kali mist is 90% sativa

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actually, kali mist USED TO BE 87.5% sativa, but now it's 75% as they've re-crossed it around 2003.

i'm DEFINITELY not into even a little couchlock. i'm not a fan of the lead eye in haze skunk, but that's all it amounts to and it's overwhelmed by the motivational bent of the strain. i'm talking about more energy neutral strains. not all sativas are racy, far from it. actually, columbian gold was probably stonier than haze skunk as i remember taking vacations from it every month when it would stop getting me high and would get seriously couchlocked on it after a day of wake & bake where the haze skunk never put me to sleep and even after a month of it building in my system, maintained a nice 24/7 mild permabuzz.

i loved chilling out to tunes on columbian gold, especially something weird that i've never heard before. kali mist wasn't hearing it. it was too mind racuyy for me to be able to even concentrate on and was much happier cleaning house whilst trying to unify newtonian physics with relativity whilst happily humming don't worry be happy. it's an awesome buzz for sure, but NOT what you want to watch a laugh your ass off stupid movie on. it doesn't have the psychoactivity to give blockbusters the same "WOW!" factor either. i'd only smoke original kali mist when sitting down and chilling are the last thing i want to do.

as much as i used to like chilling to movies & music on columbian gold, i also used to like going out dancing on it until i got dehydrated. THAT is what i call a balanced 24/7 buzz. not too racy and definitely not too stony. i can't stand being impaired by indicas. "thou shalt not attempt reaching for the remote control!" is the opposite of fun.

there are tons of variables in a buzz besides energy level and psychoactivity... euphoria, confusion, creativity, sociability, heightened senses, munchies, paranoia, and jitters etc. i was just reminded of a PARTICULAR body effect from sativas someone else was experiencing that i always called "rubber head". once you get away from strains that are nothing but stoney, there's a wide world of strains with different personalities.

BTW, after going back and re-reading the cross' description including mention of some psychoactivity, it sounds like it would be funner & more balanced than kali mist for everything ELSE besides activities. a little bit of mellow in a buzz isn't a bad thing, but afghani in particular tends to dominate like it does in stony skunk #1 where 8 miles high is supposed to be a 50:50, but has absolutely no couchlock OR raciness... no impact on energy at all leaving you with nothing but playful euphoria and motivation to seek fun. i'm totally down with THAT. getting stoned on skunk #1 or blueberry? nah uh

hazey grapes said:

actually, kali mist USED TO BE 87.5% sativa, but now it's 75% as they've re-crossed it around 2003.

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Got a link for this information? According to articles directly off Serious Seeds' website, your statement above seems to be pulled out of thin air.

homebrewer said:

Got a link for this information? According to articles directly off Serious Seeds' website, your statement above seems to be pulled out of thin air.

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i don't know about the thc percentages as i never really pay any attention to things like that as i tend to think a lot of those numbers are pulled out of thin air sometimes... but as far as the strain kali mist being re done around that time frame of 03 or so, that part is very much true..

racerboy71 said:

i don't know about the thc percentages as i never really pay any attention to things like that as i tend to think a lot of those numbers are pulled out of thin air sometimes... but as far as the strain kali mist being re done around that time frame of 03 or so, that part is very much true..

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Cliffs notes from the Serious Seeds website:

Kali mist's birth was in 1993.
In 1995, it was elected best hydro weed at the High Times Cannabis cup.
The initial creation was available until 1997 when Simon gave it a new father in effort to improve the average yields.
In 1998, Kali Mist was once again reworked for two reasons: a bust and the fact that people didn't like the 'revision' as much as the previous offering.
It was reworked with a 3rd male of closely related genetic lines to the original father which restored it's near pure sativa character.
In 2000, it won the sativa category of the High Times Cup.

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i wouldn't say "thin air", i'd say second hand information at worst. i rememberreading it somewhere and KNOW i've seen the EXACT 87.5% at least a couple times. 90% is just rounding it up 2.5%. must have just been rumors, but i swear i saw some official announcement of it being re-crossed. i didn't bookmark the source and it was years ago.

OK, just checked the site. they're still rounding the original 87.5% up to the nearest 10. as much energy as it has, it smokes like 110% anyways. maybe they tried a recross and went back to the original recipe because of complaints. or, maybe trolls were just spreading lies. i'd love to buy a couple singles of it, but it's too pricey to buy a pack of for gear you'd only use on special occasions or for work.

i'm starting to wonder if that SSH x cambodian cross i read about isn't really a kali mist cross. if so, i'd expect it's trippiness claims to be exaggerated as kali mist is anything but trippy.

kali sounds like a girl i need i need a good boost to the brain!

I thought I would just chime in and add a few things been reading up about this recenly myself.

Its Dynasty seeds who should begin to sell seeds through sannies shop.

Here is a thread the general rundown is there are 3 strains (info below) they plan on releasing 2 and it looks like they want input into what people want.
https://www.opengrow.com/index.php?showtopic=44382&hl=dynasty
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Strain Name:
Caramel Candy Kush

Brand:
Landrace,F1,F2, Selfed,Polyhybrid etc

• Stable F1

Lineage:pre98 OG Bubba x Ms.Universe #10
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Strain Name:
Brand:
Landrace,F1,F2, Selfed,Polyhybrid etc

• Stable F3

Lineage:

"you get a big fat >F< for reading comprehension."

Sad thing is most of the united states would. Its no wonder theres so much nerd rage online and through text messaging

if you want a strain liek this sannies has a freebie that is Killing fields F2 x Mrs Universe going on right now. Killing fields is (The One F1 / sannie's jack) and The One is F1 Blueberry Sativa X Killa Queen/NYCD

Tasty

homebrewer said:

Got a link for this information? According to articles directly off Serious Seeds' website, your statement above seems to be pulled out of thin air.

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All Simon's lines have been reworked. Infact since he lost his "GAME" and started chasing the feminsed game his genetics have gone down hill fast.
I loved Kali mist. Allthough i would not like to try one now in the small size i have.

Seriouse also lost some parent stock "Like 90%" of other seedbanks in the raids of 2000's . Most dutch seedbanks like us to forget these events happened.

canna_420 said:

All Simon's lines have been reworked. Infact since he lost his "GAME" and started chasing the feminsed game his genetics have gone down hill fast.
I loved Kali mist. Allthough i would not like to try one now in the small size i have.

Seriouse also lost some parent stock "Like 90%" of other seedbanks in the raids of 2000's . Most dutch seedbanks like us to forget these events happened.

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While their stains may not be identical to their initial releases because of reasons you outlined above (which is actually mentioned on their site), their strains are very stable and of very high quality. I was not fortunate enough to try the original kali or Ak but I I'd put their quality and stability up against any of the pollen-chucking F1 breeders that seem to be popular today. Did you happen to see that AK won a cup again this year?

homebrewer said:

While their stains may not be identical to their initial releases because of reasons you outlined above (which is actually mentioned on their site), their strains are very stable and of very high quality. I was not fortunate enough to try the original kali or Ak but I I'd put their quality and stability up against any of the pollen-chucking F1 breeders that seem to be popular today. Did you happen to see that AK won a cup again this year?

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Yer sure he as some good shit. but not like it was eveb 3-4 years ago.
AK47 is again a seed every collector should have or have done.
Look at it this way, Phenos other companies sell simon as lost. The famous Cherry AK. Pyramids spannabis result 33% thc was tested with an AK47 pheno.

Get it right i dont dispute the quality compared to like. GHS, Barney's CH9 i could go on.