Say no to pot walmarts!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now before it"s too late!!!!!

This was posted on the 7th.
https://www.rollitup.org/content/small-marijuana-growers-vs-superstores-57.html

Lets start a movement....all marijuana smokers and growers. Lets make sure these people don't ruin all of our lives. The ONLY way to stop this is to NOT BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE. If they get $200,000 licenses from the City of Oakland, whose city council is about to ruin the lives of thousands of people, these superstores are going to flood the market with inexpensive, and very possibly harmful cannibis. Once the big boys get their hands on things they like to put shit with "ine" for suffixes. They like to get you addicted to substances like nicotine. Who the hell knows what they are going to be putting in their strains. The system as it is, is perfect. Now that it is being taxed it would only help the city to have corporations come in and sell mass quantities, so the tax revenue can go to....who the hell knows....the city? Doubtful. What is going to happen is these superstores are going to eventually grow into "TAX SHELTERS" and get grants and funds from the government, same as pharmacutical companies. So lets see, the big cultivation companies involved in tobacco and pharma....R.J. Reynolds, Phillp Morris, Bayer (who sent AIDS in Aspirin to Africa, a fact they admitted to). Are you all ready to let the old boy "man" kill all of us pot smokers, like they've been killing tobacco users. (natural tobacco isn't harmful, only the additives are)

I am not ready to see my small growing friends (and small I mean maybe a pound a month growers) losing their only current source of income because some brainless idiots in the Oakland city council want to ruin the livelyhoods of thousands of people, for a buck. Stand up and fight by not purchasing ANY marijuana grown by a company larger than 10 people. If you do YOU are contributing to crime in epic proportions. The city said that by starting these "licenses" of which only 4 are given out, that crime would go down. No. What is going to happen is the corporations are going to be allowed to grow 10000kg and you, who grows more than a pound is going to jail. There should be a federal mandate outlawing large scale marijuana cultivation over say 10 pounds of "high grade weed" OR 20 pounds of "low grade". That equates to about $50,000 a month. These companies are literally going to be growing enough to be making MILLIONS a month. And it's going to be legal for them....not for us.

Once again even our local governments are looking at the dollar bill not the welfare of their constituants. LETS ALL STOP THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you believe in small growers, with good strains, and a community (ALL of us smokers) that is more friendly than any other in the world, then make your mark here first and keep this thread alive. Thanks everyone.

Tis is crazy.I would have to say no to this but if it lets everyone grow for their own personal use then it would be good.

wait hold up, you say bayer sent aids to africa inside of theyre aspirin? im gonna call shenannigans on this one...

"Stand up and fight by not purchasing ANY marijuana grown by a company larger than 10 people. If you do YOU are contributing to crime in epic proportions."

you fail, how many people do you think it takes to cultivate, cut down and then trim enough pot to supply a dispensary? Everything is about money! we live in a capitalist country! your post is futile.

theres giant corporations that distribute vegetables but you can still grow your own, nobody goes around making sure your not so that di'tomasos can still make a buck.
you can still grow tobacco cant you?

these "big boys" are most likely pot heads like you and me just way better at it.

I don't know about you but I would like to work there.

well if you want to work there better move to mexico cause that were most of it will be grown

http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot....-2010-tax.html
heres more of the truth.
bottom line is im voting no and evry one i know who votes is voting no. there is more than one way to legalize bud.
and prop 19 is not the way to do it.
right now i grow bud for free if prop 19 passes ill have to pay taxes to grow even if only for my personal use.
prop 19 is no good

even if you believe they're going about legalizing it the wrong way, at least they're going about it.
I'd rather pay taxes on my crop than go to jail for it.
look at it from their point of view.. its an economic crutch, they're going to have to bone the little guy to get this going anywhere. do you think the government is going to go "ok stoners you can have your pot now sorry for being a dick for so long"

ok prop19 says people must be 21 to smoke weed......but
prop 215 says 18 and over to medicate
what happens to the card holders 18-20....
IT BECOMES ILLEGA TO SMOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well you have to be 21 to drink that don't stop me. but this is all irrelevant to me anyways I live in ak and its decriminalized. we dont have any dispensaries but weed is everywhere.


my main point is the original poster thinks bayer gave aids to africa and I would like to know where he heard this.

edit: oh no the only people getting arrested for pot after this bill will be under 21 year olds as opposed to anyone? say it isnt so!

that what we need he in cali is decriminalized
not legalization

come on, this is nothing but a fear campaign and it's asinine. The author makes all kind of wild leaps, such as they'll introduce substances to addict us to pot.... guess what buddy? I'm already fucking addicted! I fucking love it!

Anyone with intelligence knows that tobacco AND the additives are harmful. Nicotene is a natural byproduct of tobacco, the plant uses it as a defense against insects.

The OP is full of fear and smear simply to save the livelihood of some small time growers that are operating outside the law. The cheaper marijuana is, the more common place it is and the acceptance it will gain. The only one's to benefit from not allowing the growers in is the guy that sells a pound of grow every couple of months in oz chunks at $300-400 a pop...

If the big time growers provide crap weed as the author suggests, then his growing friends have nothing to worry about, as they'll still be in demand.

well decrim isnt all that great, i could still get all my plants taken and a fine slapped on me, and jailtime for a repeat offense.


now lets go ahead and say boom, weeds 100 percent legal tomarrow. no strings attached. how would you meet the demand for pot? a bunch of mom and pop pot stores randomly scattered about the country? and not one of them is allowed to expand to a national level? it would never work for the same reason having just small businesses everywhere wouldn't work. too many people, too much demand. stores like walmart thrive because they cater to what we want, we want to be lazy and cheap.

were dose it say in prop 19 that weed will be cheap

im not quoting prop 19 im simply saying that if a "big business" moves in its obviously going to drive prices down.

besides that prop 19 alows local gverment to tax people for growing there own weed.

as opposed to? if you legalize it in an attempt to use it as an economical crutch then you kinda have to tie up all those loose ends dont you? cant make money off it if everyone can grow it. besides if they do start trying to tax your pot growing then that would cause the whole issue to fall under the jurisdiction of the internal revenue service, which im afraid is very unequipped to bust you. so you get a letter? or a guy in a suit comes to your house to ask if your growing? sounds much better than armed dea agents to me..

I dont know about Walmart actually getting in on the action.... but those shady fuckers at Whole Foods might.

FACT .. Whole foods cannot accomplish selling good quality catnip bud. They sell shit quality, non fragrant leaves & stems. How the fuck will they identify a good bud on any other plant??? More than likely, Whole Foods would sell weed thats every bit as organic as the Toyota Prius.... no thanks.

FACT ... Whole Foods has the shadiest, and downright lowlife'ted practices when it comes to cured meat. {hot dogs, ham, bacon etc} "No Nitrate". Bullshit. If its got a nice color {not funky grey}, and no botulism... then Nitrates were used in the curing process. They just happen to use Celery based nitrate, and claim its there for flavor. If I grow Papaver Somniferum and extract the "natural flavors", its still Opium.

I seriously doubt that California can accomplish writing a good piece of legislation. Maybe that's my biased Red-State mentality. For starters.. too many Californian's have been begging to be heavily taxed, and hyper-regulated. Apparently the last 70 years of regulation weren't fucked up enough. I am more for doing the right thing, for the right things sake. Tax it a little if you must. Just legalize and stay the fuck out of my garden.

that what im talking about!

but i do have to offer the fact of logistics. so far its proven to be logistically impossible for "them" to bust more than a fractional amount of pot growers, and its illegal. I think it will be the same if they try and tax a personal grow, which doesn't even make sense since its illegal for them to tax something if your not making any money off it. I think this is all a bunch of bs. I really dont think uncle sam will be poking his head into our closets and backyards anytime soon holding the collection plate..

Voters in Rancho Cordova will decide in November whether to tax residents who grow their own pot.
The city measure, put on the Nov. 2 ballot by the City Council this week, would impose taxes on all local residential cultivation if California voters approve Proposition 19 to legalize recreational use.
But the city’s proposed “Personal Cannabis Cultivation Tax” also makes no distinction between medical and recreational cultivation, Peter Hecht writes in “Weed Wars.” So the tax would kick in for anyone currently cultivating for personal medical use — whether Prop. 19 passes or not
If passed by local voters, the taxation measure in the Sacramento County city would make at-home cultivation a much more expensive endeavor.

The Rancho Cordova measure would impose a $600 annual tax per square foot of indoor cultivation of 25 square feet of marijuana or less and a $900 per square foot tax if the indoor growing area is more than 25 square feet.

The city tax would cost a local indoor grower $6,000 a year on 10 square feet of pot plants and $15,000 for 25 square feet. Outdoor growers, who would be billed at a lower rate, would pay a $1,200 residential tax for 25 square feet of marijuana plants.
If Proposition 19 passes, it would allow California adults over 21 to cultivate in a 25-square foot residential space. Medical growers often exceed those limits by cultivating with other pot patients