Scientific arguments on cannabis.

abandonconflict

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I will link several actual studies from legit journals, I urge everyone to look at them. At least look at "interpretation" so that you can see what the researchers themselves thought of the data they collected. I maintain this is not biased research and also that much biased research exists. Many findings are complex. I will paste the interpretations.

Study on permanent brain damage.http://www.cmaj.ca/content/166/7/887.full
Interpretation: Current marijuana use had a negative effect on global IQ score only in subjects who smoked 5 or more joints per week. A negative effect was not observed among subjects who had previously been heavy users but were no longer using the substance. We conclude that marijuana does not have a long-term negative impact on global intelligence. Whether the absence of a residual marijuana effect would also be evident in more specific cognitive domains such as memory and attention remains to be ascertained.






Study on adolescent cannabis use and schizophrenia.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...3/?tool=pubmed
Interpretation: Adolescence is a time of particular vulnerability for brain maturation. During this period many individuals experiment with illicit substance use and sometimes quite frequently. Some adolescents who abuse cannabis subsequently develop chronic serious psychiatric symptoms, such as schizophrenia (e.g. [22]) and also cognitive deficits [23-25]. However, it has never been shown consistently that cannabis has direct effects on brain development and there are no known reports using more advanced imaging technology such as DTI to examine white matter integrity. Thus the current study was an initial evaluation to determine whether any indication of cortical atrophy or white matter abnormalities could be detected applying these current MRI methods.






Another study on permanent brain damage.http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medli.../full_citation
Interpretation: Performance impairment during Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) intoxication has been well described in occasional cannabis users. It is less clear whether tolerance develops to the impairing effects of THC in heavy users of cannabis. The aim of the present study was to assess neurocognitive performance during acute THC intoxication in occasional and heavy users. Twenty-four subjects (12 occasional cannabis users and 12 heavy cannabis users) participated in a double-blind, placebo-controlled, two-way mixed model design. Both groups received single doses of THC placebo and 500 microg/kg THC by smoking. Performance tests were conducted at regular intervals between 0 and 8 h after smoking, and included measures of perceptual motor control (critical tracking task), dual task processing (divided attention task), motor inhibition (stop signal task) and cognition (Tower of London). THC significantly impaired performance of occasional cannabis users on critical tracking, divided attention and the stop signal task. THC did not affect the performance of heavy cannabis users except in the stop signal task, i.e. stop reaction time increased, particularly at high THC concentrations. Group comparisons of overall performance in occasional and heavy users did not reveal any persistent performance differences due to residual THC in heavy users. These data indicate that cannabis use history strongly determines the behavioural response to single doses of THC.





Study on cannabis as neuroprotective for teen binge drinkers (it actually protects from brain damage)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19631736
Interpretation: Structural brain abnormalities have been observed in adolescents with alcohol use disorders but less is known about neuropathological brain characteristics of teens with sub-diagnostic binge drinking or the common pattern of binge drinking combined with marijuana use. The goal of this study was to examine white matter integrity in adolescents with histories of binge drinking and marijuana use. Diffusion tensor imaging (DTI) was conducted with 42 adolescents (ages 16-19) classified as controls, binge drinkers, or binge drinkers who are also heavy marijuana users. Tract based spatial analysis identified shared fiber structure across individuals and facilitated voxelwise comparisons of fractional anisotropy (FA) and mean diffusivity (MD) between groups. Significant between group differences were found in FA in eight white matter regions (ps < or = .016) between the binge drink-only group and controls, including superior corona radiata, inferior longitudinal fasciculus, inferior fronto-occipital fasciculus, and superior longitudinal fasciculus. Interestingly, in 4 of these same regions, binge drinkers who are also heavy marijuana users had higher FA than binge drinkers who did not use marijuana (ps<.05). MD did not differ between groups. Findings are largely consistent with research suggesting less neuropathology in adolescents without histories of substance use. However, binge drinkers who also use marijuana did not show as consistent a divergence from non-users as did the binge drink-only group. Detection of white matter alterations may have implications in identifying early cognitive dysfunction in substance using adolescents.






4 is enough for now, I do know of more
 
There is no point, it's just science. Pointless science, desert rat.

Oh. OK. Well, here is some more pointless science:

http://funnycrave.com/5-completely-pointless-scientific-studies/2185/

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[h=2]Monkeys Can&#8217;t Type For Shit[/h] If you give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters and an infinite amount of time, the monkeys will eventually produce the collected works of William Shakespeare. Whether or not it will be leather bound and possess a badass monkey forward isn&#8217;t really the point. It&#8217;s simply a highly improbable situation that is backed up by the law of probability, and it&#8217;s called the Infinite Monkey Theorem.
Some researchers at Plymouth University in England had so much faith in primates that they may as well have nailed a chimp to a cross to die for all of our primate sins. These crazy British bastards actually put the infinite monkey theorem to the test.
monkey-typing1234123248-335x240.jpg
The results? Well, we&#8217;ll let one of the researchers tell you himself:
&#8220;They get bored and they shit on the keyboard rather than type.&#8221;
 
Oh. OK. Well, here is some more pointless science:

http://funnycrave.com/5-completely-pointless-scientific-studies/2185/

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Monkeys Can&#8217;t Type For Shit

If you give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters and an infinite amount of time, the monkeys will eventually produce the collected works of William Shakespeare. Whether or not it will be leather bound and possess a badass monkey forward isn&#8217;t really the point. It&#8217;s simply a highly improbable situation that is backed up by the law of probability, and it&#8217;s called the Infinite Monkey Theorem.
Some researchers at Plymouth University in England had so much faith in primates that they may as well have nailed a chimp to a cross to die for all of our primate sins. These crazy British bastards actually put the infinite monkey theorem to the test.
monkey-typing1234123248-335x240.jpg
The results? Well, we&#8217;ll let one of the researchers tell you himself:
&#8220;They get bored and they shit on the keyboard rather than type.&#8221;

I know you hate seeing a scientific argument defending cannabis, since your job at the DEA relies on cannabis remaining illegal, but what is the point of this monkey crap?
 
What does it matter the scientific evidence? There's plenty of scientific evidence alcohol causes brain damage, liver failure, hostility, and all manner of society ills. Yet it's legal. Marijuana has zero scientific evidence to support such. It's science's job to prove it, not the job for us to disprove it. I just like getting really fucked up and so high I believe I'm in heaven. I do my job. So get off my nuts! Then end.
 
I will + rep anyone if you can present a cogent argument pro cannabis prohibition that does not have a premise that could be proven or disproved by research. If there is no such argument, science is capable of rendering all arguments against legal cannabis fallacious.
 
I will + rep anyone if you can present a cogent argument pro cannabis prohibition that does not have a premise that could be proven or disproved by research. If there is no such argument, science is capable of rendering all arguments against legal cannabis fallacious.

Politics does not rely on science, logic or common sense.

I win!!
 
I will + rep anyone if you can present a cogent argument pro cannabis prohibition that does not have a premise that could be proven or disproved by research. If there is no such argument, science is capable of rendering all arguments against legal cannabis fallacious.

All black people smoke cannabis so it should be outlawed, along with black people.
 
All very interesting. What is the point of the thread, though?

Google "scientific arguments on cannabis".

The politics subforum of RIU gets hundreds of views per hour and this thread at less than an hour old already has over a hundred. It isn't pointless just because it is science.
 
Google "scientific arguments on cannabis".

The politics subforum of RIU gets hundreds of views per hour and this thread at less than an hour old already has over a hundred. It isn't pointless just because it is science.

Then make a thread stating. "I like mixing science thought and politics." Then talk about how you think it would be a great idea to merge the science and political forums. Ask what others think. I've been on other forums who make such threads. Sometimes the thread suggestions happen.
 
I will + rep anyone if you can present a cogent argument pro cannabis prohibition that does not have a premise that could be proven or disproved by research. If there is no such argument, science is capable of rendering all arguments against legal cannabis fallacious.

So, the point of the thread is that cannabis prohibition is unsupportable from a scientific perspective? I agree. Was it so hard to simply say that in the original post, or to say that when I asked you what point your were trying to make? Being inscrutable is only a positive trait for Charlie Chan, the great TV detective.

I think cannabis prohibition is also unsupportable from a merely human rights perspective: You own your own body, and it is your right to do with it as you please as long as you don't harm others.

Cannabis prohibition is also unsupportable from a cause/effect perspective when you consider the disastrous effects of the drug war.
 
I will + rep anyone if you can present a cogent argument pro cannabis prohibition that does not have a premise that could be proven or disproved by research. If there is no such argument, science is capable of rendering all arguments against legal cannabis fallacious.

You know the research Reagan relied on for proof that MJ causes brain damage?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/2/newsid_2540000/2540141.stm

the one where they had altered the timelines, so that a years worth of research would be concluded in mere months? The one where they made the monkeys consume up to the equivalent of 5 joints per hour and made them recirculate the smoke (and CO2) so that they didn't spend so much on the marijuana? The one where they basically asphyxiated the monkeys and claimed the abnormal brain patterns were due to MJ instead of near death due to oxygen deprivation?

Heath/Tulane study :1974
 
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