Secession

Would you support your states secession from the Union under the Federal Government? What if they started a new union under independent state governments?

I think we should abandon the Feds and their debt.

Good luck with that. It was a smashing success last time.

Circumstances are different now. I support our union just not our representatives and the 7percent rating says it all.

For sure I feel you, we're all kinda pissed at what's going on, but I don't think leaving the union would help. Shit would be so fucked up in that area after all govt funding ended. Who do you think pays law enforcement, the govt. so right away it would be lawless. The roads and infrastructure would fall into disrepair rather quickly. When you look at the overall consequces that would follow after secession, I'm not in.

Balzac89 said:

Would you support your states secession from the Union under the Federal Government? What if they started a new union under independent state governments?

I think we should abandon the Feds and their debt.

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but how? and who is the person to take control?

i think several states could be swayed but an organization has to be in place before you can start a movement.

leaders would have to picked a lot of people to talk a lot of networking it could be done but the feds would be aware of it the whole time and know whos, who and all the intel which would prove to be the downfall of such a movement.

the only way to make this happen is if several people that supported this idea where in already office, with an organization already picked out, and it would have to appear that people agree.

step 1 would be start a militia.

step 2 would be find several people who support the organization, can run for office and are only secretly associated with said organization.

step 3 would be the annoucement by said officials that they are now associated with said organization and succeeding by the will/force of the people.s

step 4 would be the act of the militia to back up the people in office who support the movement and thier new government.

step 5 would be civil war, or rather civil unrest i dont not know how the feds would try to handle this one. it would also depend on how many states joined in and how many sympathizers we had withing the federal government.

nuff said.

also this does not mean i agree with you 100% im just saying in this day and age this is how it would be done. our best hope is that the government someday chooses to reform itself and rewrite everything according to modern times, consulting all the modern day Benjamin Franklins and Thomas jeffersons for a complete restructure and rewrite of everything.

Balzac89 said:

Would you support your states secession from the Union under the Federal Government? What if they started a new union under independent state governments?

I think we should abandon the Feds and their debt.

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id rather a secession from all government gangsters, the belief that we need some monopoly unaccountable for its actions is not something I follow.

No doubt tranistions are difficult but the day will come.

We have alot of stuff we don't need. As in Need vs want.

We need to localize more than anything else. Forget the world we know. Most Americans grew up in a fantasy world.

The world I grew up in is not the norm. Atleast when you consider the rest of the world.

I've seen some shit, but my life has been easy.

Balzac89 said:

Would you support your states secession from the Union under the Federal Government? What if they started a new union under independent state governments?

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No. cn

I think we should abandon the Feds and their debt.

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Secession would be awesome
And i am sure the upcoming civil war will not be used as a way for our enemies to attack us while we are fighting each other

depending on what the final straw was, i could see myself hiding in the Appalachian mountains fighting a guerrilla war. the funny thing is, i see very few liberals taking up guns to fight a war.

PeyoteReligion said:

Shit would be so fucked up in that area after all govt funding ended. Who do you think pays law enforcement

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Where do you think the government gets all that money?

Mr Neutron said:

Where do you think the government gets all that money?

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Balzac89 said:

Would you support your states secession from the Union under the Federal Government? What if they started a new union under independent state governments?

I think we should abandon the Feds and their debt.

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States rights were at the core of the American Civil War.

Mr Neutron said:

Where do you think the government gets all that money?

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eggxactly....

Atleast in my state we pay more into the federal government then we get back.... 90 cents on the dollar i believe.

I'm a gun owning liberal......

Succession is sedition and the south is still being punished

You think the Federal govt will allow you to steal property and tax base you cannot possibly defend?

Balzac89 said:

Atleast in my state we pay more into the federal government then we get back.... 90 cents on the dollar i believe.

I'm a gun owning liberal......

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Wouldn't it be better to keep 100%? Why does sending money to Washington for them to divvy up and keep a cut for themselves before sending it back to the states, make more sense than just keeping it? It never makes it past the state, anyway. The taxpayer never sees any of it.

From what I've seen the red states eat up more than they pay in.

Balzac89 said:

From what I've seen the red states eat up more than they pay in.

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... and you're OK with that?

I love paying mafia protection fees, keeps them from beating my head in..la la la la