Olive Drab Green
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I like this guy.
Should I get an led light?
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JorgeGonzales
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I think lumping everything China together is a bit unfair, and sorry, where is the "viparspectra" website and New Years party? Asking the hard questions. .
https://www.mars-hydro.com
On a more serious note, this is a truly impressive hotspot. Which is why "micromoles" at such and such inches are meaningless if you are talking about a spread that looks like this:
And this chart speaks for itself. Or maybe it doesn't but it's really bizarre:
What is up with all that blue? Is that a veg setting?
Bubblin
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I'm pretty sure they're made by http://www.evergrowlighting.com/
Olive Drab Green
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I believe my company spends more money on quality components and actual intuitive design than barbecue parties, which they fund with your money.
Anyway, my stuff speaks pretty well for itself. 3 week veg, seedling included.
Olive Drab Green
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Besides, I don't see you in China enjoying the party. What's it got to do with anything?
edwardvanhalen123456
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Thank you very much for the reply. I'm just thinking in the long run, can I shave off a couple weeks of grow time if I get a good led because my main problem is it takes forever to grow a plant under a cfl.
I also have a very small grow space so I would only be able to put one of those ufo lights in there. I really like olive drabs pics. He has some nice buds with that led.
So do you think I should get the led if my only concern is time?
edwardvanhalen123456
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That is really nice man. I might have to look into getting that led light. How long does it take you to harvest a plant?
Their really isn't that much heat that comes out of that light is there? That's what I like about led's, no heat and good results. Thanks for the great pics.
Olive Drab Green
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They harvest on time, save the usual rule for just about everything of "wait a week or two past the breeder recommendations. No heat. Here were my colas at 2am this morning:
coreywebster
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If its taking a long time to grow and flower then the space probably doesn't have enough lighting or enough new air coming in. If a ufo would solve this I don't know because I have never used one, if the issue is co2 levels then no light will fix that issue.
Olivedrab certainly gets a lot out of his fixture.
If your plants are slow to grow maybe your not exchanging your air enough for your plant.
What is the size of your grow cab?
What wattage of cfl have you been using previously?
How are you taking out old air and bringing in new?
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Yes go led if hid lighting isn't suitable.
I have used it for years and it's excellent. You get the odd person that thinks it doesn't work well. Everybody is entitled to their pwn opinion. It does work very well imo, especially with cfl. I have done several grows with led and cfl.
I would say this though. Your cab is 2ft x 4ft. So you need 2 leds which cover about 2ft each, then grow two plants and hang the cfl in the center between them, low down, this stops the roots getting to cold.
If you live in Europe I'd go with 2 plantphotonics leds - 90w panels, or 2 hans panels. If you live in the USA, get either 2 solareflare 110's or 2 x 220's. I have used them and they are very good leds that plants really like.
I have recently switched to cmh from led and hps. I have come to regret selling my led's and will purchase more soon. Don't buy 1 big panel. Get a few smaller panels, then whatever you do in the future with regards to changing lighting or set up round, the leds will always fit in the corners, or run a supreme veg tent one day. I'm going to run a ring of leds around 315w cmh.
If you have lots of height, like 1.5 meters or more go with 5w leds, if not and you are going to have them very close to the plants, go for 3w leds so you don't bleach the buds/hash tips
I like these white cobs they're doing. But they are so expensive currently. I'm not very good with build your own leds, but if I was good at it, I'd be on it like flies to shit!
There are major advantages to you going led, like this, if you are vegging and rh is too low, turn off the cfl's and just run leds, this will decrease the rate of air extraction and raise the rh. Growing with cfl + led is a way you can really find a great overall spectrum of light. Targeted par with led, with a nice daylight blue cfl in for bushy plants, or red for stretchier plants.
Sky's the limit
I have used it for years and it's excellent. You get the odd person that thinks it doesn't work well. Everybody is entitled to their pwn opinion. It does work very well imo, especially with cfl. I have done several grows with led and cfl.
I would say this though. Your cab is 2ft x 4ft. So you need 2 leds which cover about 2ft each, then grow two plants and hang the cfl in the center between them, low down, this stops the roots getting to cold.
If you live in Europe I'd go with 2 plantphotonics leds - 90w panels, or 2 hans panels. If you live in the USA, get either 2 solareflare 110's or 2 x 220's. I have used them and they are very good leds that plants really like.
I have recently switched to cmh from led and hps. I have come to regret selling my led's and will purchase more soon. Don't buy 1 big panel. Get a few smaller panels, then whatever you do in the future with regards to changing lighting or set up round, the leds will always fit in the corners, or run a supreme veg tent one day. I'm going to run a ring of leds around 315w cmh.
If you have lots of height, like 1.5 meters or more go with 5w leds, if not and you are going to have them very close to the plants, go for 3w leds so you don't bleach the buds/hash tips
I like these white cobs they're doing. But they are so expensive currently. I'm not very good with build your own leds, but if I was good at it, I'd be on it like flies to shit!
There are major advantages to you going led, like this, if you are vegging and rh is too low, turn off the cfl's and just run leds, this will decrease the rate of air extraction and raise the rh. Growing with cfl + led is a way you can really find a great overall spectrum of light. Targeted par with led, with a nice daylight blue cfl in for bushy plants, or red for stretchier plants.
Sky's the limit
edwardvanhalen123456
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I don't have space to buy a carbon filter, I've said this multiple times.
I have a very small space to grow. This is a closet grow so I can't get any filters or anything like that.
I never had a filter or inline fan on my previous grows and I grew about 4 or 5 plants under cfl's using miracle gro and the plants were very good so I wouldn't need a carbon filter anyway. So I'm just going to get stuff like ona gel and I'll be fine.
edwardvanhalen123456
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Wow you must be easily amused because I have no idea how you could think that's funny. It's just pics of ppl eating lol.
Thanks for posting even though it has nothing to do with my post.
edwardvanhalen123456
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How long does it take for you to harvest a plant. Is it about the same time it would take an hps to get it done?
Also do you think if I buy this light would it take a month or a couple weeks off of my harvest time because I'm using cfl's?
edwardvanhalen123456
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Yes go led if hid lighting isn't suitable.
I have used it for years and it's excellent. You get the odd person that thinks it doesn't work well. Everybody is entitled to their pwn opinion. It does work very well imo, especially with cfl. I have done several grows with led and cfl.
I would say this though. Your cab is 2ft x 4ft. So you need 2 leds which cover about 2ft each, then grow two plants and hang the cfl in the center between them, low down, this stops the roots getting to cold.
If you live in Europe I'd go with 2 plantphotonics leds - 90w panels, or 2 hans panels. If you live in the USA, get either 2 solareflare 110's or 2 x 220's. I have used them and they are very good leds that plants really like.
I have recently switched to cmh from led and hps. I have come to regret selling my led's and will purchase more soon. Don't buy 1 big panel. Get a few smaller panels, then whatever you do in the future with regards to changing lighting or set up round, the leds will always fit in the corners, or run a supreme veg tent one day. I'm going to run a ring of leds around 315w cmh.
If you have lots of height, like 1.5 meters or more go with 5w leds, if not and you are going to have them very close to the plants, go for 3w leds so you don't bleach the buds/hash tips
I like these white cobs they're doing. But they are so expensive currently. I'm not very good with build your own leds, but if I was good at it, I'd be on it like flies to shit!
There are major advantages to you going led, like this, if you are vegging and rh is too low, turn off the cfl's and just run leds, this will decrease the rate of air extraction and raise the rh. Growing with cfl + led is a way you can really find a great overall spectrum of light. Targeted par with led, with a nice daylight blue cfl in for bushy plants, or red for stretchier plants.
Thank you a lot for your detailed description.
The problem is I can't spend much money. The most I could probably spend is around 150 and that solarflare led is really awesome but really expensive.
I don't even know what cmh is lol. The main thing I'm looking at is the time it would take a plant to grow under an led light. How much of a difference is it between the led and hps.
My autoflower is supposed to be ready to harvest in 8 to 9 weeks. I know an hps would be able to finish in 8 weeks but would an led be around the same?
I'm growing with cfl's and it's going to take a lot longer to harvest, prolly 12 weeks or more. It would be great to find an led that could really shorten that time, any ideas?
edwardvanhalen123456
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Thank you a lot for your detailed description.
The problem is I can't spend much money. The most I could probably spend is around 150 and that solarflare led is really awesome but really expensive.
I don't even know what cmh is lol. The main thing I'm looking at is the time it would take a plant to grow under an led light. How much of a difference is it between the led and hps.
My autoflower is supposed to be ready to harvest in 8 to 9 weeks. I know an hps would be able to finish in 8 weeks but would an led be around the same?
I'm growing with cfl's and it's going to take a lot longer to harvest, prolly 12 weeks or more. It would be great to find an led that could really shorten that time, any ideas?
The problem is I can't spend much money. The most I could probably spend is around 150 and that solarflare led is really awesome but really expensive.
I don't even know what cmh is lol. The main thing I'm looking at is the time it would take a plant to grow under an led light. How much of a difference is it between the led and hps.
My autoflower is supposed to be ready to harvest in 8 to 9 weeks. I know an hps would be able to finish in 8 weeks but would an led be around the same?
I'm growing with cfl's and it's going to take a lot longer to harvest, prolly 12 weeks or more. It would be great to find an led that could really shorten that time, any ideas?
Airwalker16
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If you want LED you need cobs... and cash for the cobs. With $150, this is about the best bang for your buck. And by the way, CMH/LEC = Ceramic Metal Halide/Light Emitting Ceramic.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01I50CCPW/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472029187&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=roleadro+cree
I have the same light. How big is your space and it jyst the one light?
Olive Drab Green
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Like, 1.5x5x5.5 ish?
Thefarmer12
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Plants don't necessarily flower faster under different lights. Better lights will just increase weight, potency, etc..not "speed up" the growing process.
PCXV
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Do you have any experience with that brand? I've been eyeing it but can't find any info on it.