Smart pot and nutrients

Chrisz0825

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I'm about to start my first grow. I will be using a 5x5 tent with 2 Mars hydro 192x5 reflectors. 4 5 gallon smart pots with Fox farm ocean forest. I have an active air intake 400 cfm and a ven tech 240 cfm blower fan. I will be growing feminized northern lights seeds using a scrog and other LST. My question is, with smart pots I understand you have to water more frequently. Almost everyday from what u under stand. So if I'm doing a water water feed water water feed am I really gonna need to add nutrients about 3 wks into veg? I feel like that would be way too many nutrients.
 

greasemonkeymann

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depending on your strains, you may not have to feed them for a while, with 5 gallons of media you may even be ok with a water only, depending on how long you vege for.
But if you scrog, that's typically a longer vege time.
And you won't need to water everyday, not unless its super hot.
Also I never ever had a predetermined feed schedule.. Some plants are different, some root systems develop different... too many variables to schedule something that important.
 
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Chrisz0825

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depending on your strains, you may not have to feed them for a while, with 5 gallons of media you may even be ok with a water only, depending on how long you vege for.
But if you scrog, that's typically a longer vege time.
And you won't need to water everyday, not unless its super hot.
Also I never ever had a predetermined feed schedule.. Some plants are different, some root systems develop different... too many variables to schedule something that important.
Well I understand that using ffof, it has enough nutrients to last almost the first month of veg. But how do I know when to start feeding them nutes? When I see signs of nutrient deficiency? I plan on growing northern lights for my first grow cause I understand it's a good strain for beginners to start with. Any experience with that strain?
 

greasemonkeymann

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Well I understand that using ffof, it has enough nutrients to last almost the first month of veg. But how do I know when to start feeding them nutes? When I see signs of nutrient deficiency? I plan on growing northern lights for my first grow cause I understand it's a good strain for beginners to start with. Any experience with that strain?
no exp with that strain specifically, but many of it's crosses and similar lineage, and honestly in my experience not many strains are that finicky to where they require abnormal care.
The funny thing about bagged soils is this, it's just like food for people, the MORE you give them, the longer it lasts, and in this case, the "more" represents the overall soil, in other words, yea sure, ffof has nutrients for about a month, depending on how much soil you give them.
Make sense?
So if you grow a plant in a 12 gallon container and don't vege it super long it'll have nutrients until the pretty much the end (for this example anyways)
Many other variables, to consider, like the light, co2, temp, growing tendencies of the plant, and so on.
If you are pumping some serious light in there, with co2, you may need more food.
Outside you'd need more food.
But not normally inside.

To answer your question, i'd make a mix with half ffof, and the other half something light, (vermisoil?, promix, etc) and then amend that half with slow release nutrients, to help transition from the more water soluble nutrients that are in the ffof.
Fish bone meal, neem meal, crab meal, kelp meal, avoid guanos, blood meal, most manures (too soluble)

Make sure to age that half as well.
 

Craig1969SS

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I'm about to start my first grow. I will be using a 5x5 tent with 2 Mars hydro 192x5 reflectors. 4 5 gallon smart pots with Fox farm ocean forest. I have an active air intake 400 cfm and a ven tech 240 cfm blower fan. I will be growing feminized northern lights seeds using a scrog and other LST. My question is, with smart pots I understand you have to water more frequently. Almost everyday from what u under stand. So if I'm doing a water water feed water water feed am I really gonna need to add nutrients about 3 wks into veg? I feel like that would be way too many nutrients.
Man dude you got a lot going on for a first grow. You'd better have your shit wired tight talking scrog and lst. Grow a few seeds first and ease into the rest or your setting yourself up for a mountain of frustration.
 

az2000

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Well I understand that using ffof, it has enough nutrients to last almost the first month of veg. But how do I know when to start feeding them nutes? When I see signs of nutrient deficiency?
That's a good reason to use a soil without nutrients in it so you can be in control of what they receive, when. (Or, use a soil that's fully amended with nutrients, water only the entire grow, maybe occasional "teas").

Regarding smart pots, I haven't used one but I get fungus gnats and control them with a piece of poster board laid over my container. I spray some EcoSmart rosemary/clove/peppermint around the drain holes. It seems like a smart pot would be a gnat hotel considering how I control them. If you have gnat issues, you might consider wrapping the smart pot in panty hose.
 

soi

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5 gallon pots are huge especially if its your first grow and you haven't gotten everything dialed in yet. I doubt you will have to feed but every 3-4 days.
 
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