lavamuffin
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Greetings fellow grow-entusiasts. This will be my first post, but i must warn you; I am going to get rather techinical, and being european, I use the metric system. I also have a tendansy to write very long and boring posts. Cant get the autospelling to work, so bear with me.
I am currently in the prosess of building a DWC-hydroponic (stealth) speaker growbox, and due to my plans being quite radical, I wish to share this experiense with everyone facing simular challenges when designing a stealth grow box. If all goes well, this will evolve to a grow-journal from the very beginning to the end, starting now!https://www.rollitup.org/images/attach/jpg.gif




Stuff like fans and carbon scrubber are not in the picture.
I have allready attemted one grow in this speaker, but it was not a huge success. I might be able to optain some pictures of the first grom sometime later. Before going in to the new setup, i´ll give you the rundown on my last grow and how the box is at the moment, and what needs to be improved.
It was my very first grow, and alot of things went wrong. Firstly, my 300 dollar, 50w led-panel failed after only two weeks, so Instead i got a 60w phillips tornado cfl. It dit a good job afterall. Aint gonna buy LED-lights again in the near future.
I then found that having two plants in one speaker is not a good idea. Which in retrospect was a rather stupid idea to begin with, but I didnt know any better at that time. The plants (AK-48 from Nirvana) grew alot bigger and faster than I expected, so I had to do a hell of alot of trimming and training. Probably way to much trimming for the wellbeing of the plants. I think it really did hurt them. Next time it will be a single plant.
I also came to realize that cooling was a huge issue aswell. Even though I had two (very noicy - non stealthy) 120mm, 230 volt fans (one for intake and one for extraction) the homemade carbon scrubber was to much of a resistanse for the fans to overcome, and the airflow was way to low in order to do any significant cooling. The daytime temps were 38 celsius at best, and at night it was about 22 C. This cooling problem is firstly an issue because its to hot for the plant to develope properly. But this also meant that the speaker was very warm to the touch, which is a considerable stealth problem. This means there are two obsticles to overcome regarding the cooling. Airflow and noise.
The cooling system will undergo some radical improvements for the next setup. Just wait and see what I got planned for this one!
After three weeks of flowering while I was sound asleep, the rope holding the cfl broke, and the hot tornado bulb burned away the entire top half on one of the plants. This needless to say was a huge dissapointment to me.
However, I managed to make it to harwest and i got what I would guess to be around 15 - 20 grams of decent smoke out of it. So I cant call the grow a total faillure, but there is deffinatly room for a lot of improvement. The only aspect of the grow that didnt fail at one point or another, was the homemade hydroponics system. Alltough i had to change the airpump, because there was way to much noise in the reservoir itself. The fact that the rez is made of stainless steel, only served to amplifie the noise. I found that the cheaper airpumps vil deliver the air in pulses, rather than a continious flow. This results in a pulsating banging noise that simply was way to obvious to ignore. A speaker is not supposed to emmit that kind of mechanical noise, and it does raise suspission that something is going on in there. The new more expensive pump performs alot better. I can explain this pulsating noise and how to deal with it in further detail, if asked to do so.
Another rather anoying problem to overcome was figuring out a way to change the water in the reservoir in the later stages of the grow. This particular problem was caused by the ever growing plant that simply got to tall inside the box, hindering me in lifting the lid of the reservoir and gaining access to the water. The lid has to be lifted far enough for the net-pot and roots to be clear of the rez, so that the rez can be dragged out of the box. In the end it became a tough two-man job to change the water, which is unaccepteble.
So, here is a list of the things I need to improve before the next grow:
I am currently in the prosess of building a DWC-hydroponic (stealth) speaker growbox, and due to my plans being quite radical, I wish to share this experiense with everyone facing simular challenges when designing a stealth grow box. If all goes well, this will evolve to a grow-journal from the very beginning to the end, starting now!https://www.rollitup.org/images/attach/jpg.gif




Stuff like fans and carbon scrubber are not in the picture.
I have allready attemted one grow in this speaker, but it was not a huge success. I might be able to optain some pictures of the first grom sometime later. Before going in to the new setup, i´ll give you the rundown on my last grow and how the box is at the moment, and what needs to be improved.
It was my very first grow, and alot of things went wrong. Firstly, my 300 dollar, 50w led-panel failed after only two weeks, so Instead i got a 60w phillips tornado cfl. It dit a good job afterall. Aint gonna buy LED-lights again in the near future.
I then found that having two plants in one speaker is not a good idea. Which in retrospect was a rather stupid idea to begin with, but I didnt know any better at that time. The plants (AK-48 from Nirvana) grew alot bigger and faster than I expected, so I had to do a hell of alot of trimming and training. Probably way to much trimming for the wellbeing of the plants. I think it really did hurt them. Next time it will be a single plant.
I also came to realize that cooling was a huge issue aswell. Even though I had two (very noicy - non stealthy) 120mm, 230 volt fans (one for intake and one for extraction) the homemade carbon scrubber was to much of a resistanse for the fans to overcome, and the airflow was way to low in order to do any significant cooling. The daytime temps were 38 celsius at best, and at night it was about 22 C. This cooling problem is firstly an issue because its to hot for the plant to develope properly. But this also meant that the speaker was very warm to the touch, which is a considerable stealth problem. This means there are two obsticles to overcome regarding the cooling. Airflow and noise.
The cooling system will undergo some radical improvements for the next setup. Just wait and see what I got planned for this one!
After three weeks of flowering while I was sound asleep, the rope holding the cfl broke, and the hot tornado bulb burned away the entire top half on one of the plants. This needless to say was a huge dissapointment to me.
However, I managed to make it to harwest and i got what I would guess to be around 15 - 20 grams of decent smoke out of it. So I cant call the grow a total faillure, but there is deffinatly room for a lot of improvement. The only aspect of the grow that didnt fail at one point or another, was the homemade hydroponics system. Alltough i had to change the airpump, because there was way to much noise in the reservoir itself. The fact that the rez is made of stainless steel, only served to amplifie the noise. I found that the cheaper airpumps vil deliver the air in pulses, rather than a continious flow. This results in a pulsating banging noise that simply was way to obvious to ignore. A speaker is not supposed to emmit that kind of mechanical noise, and it does raise suspission that something is going on in there. The new more expensive pump performs alot better. I can explain this pulsating noise and how to deal with it in further detail, if asked to do so.
Another rather anoying problem to overcome was figuring out a way to change the water in the reservoir in the later stages of the grow. This particular problem was caused by the ever growing plant that simply got to tall inside the box, hindering me in lifting the lid of the reservoir and gaining access to the water. The lid has to be lifted far enough for the net-pot and roots to be clear of the rez, so that the rez can be dragged out of the box. In the end it became a tough two-man job to change the water, which is unaccepteble.
So, here is a list of the things I need to improve before the next grow:
- I want more ligthning wattage in there to increase the yield
- The cooling system must undergo some drastic changes, especially with more wattage
- noise from fans and pumps must be adressed. Otherwise its not stealth.
- The ease of plant- and reservoir- maintinense must be thought out properly this time
- Due to the lack of space, some serious training is a must