Still unsure as to what is going on, need veteran help PLEASE

zoomer428

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This isn't the first post I've made but I had been told this is very irregular damage which I assume is why I didn't get any help but I'm rolling the dice and calling on some vets or maybe someone could direct me where I could get some more help?

Bean is a gelato glue from barneys farm. All was going well until a couple weeks ago, these spots start forming. Naturally I assume it's nothing but it has grown worse. I just cal mag the soil and made sure the ph was correct. Both of which are good. I did feed it a extremely small amount of nutes in two seperate feedings, I can almost guarantee this is not a result of that. It is under 220w of light. I have continually moved them up and the plant still chases them. It is still growing very fast. Someone mentioned it may be some form of infection which would make sense. It is in a tent and a temp controlled environment. It is not

Any help or direction to help is greatly, greatly appreciated. I do not want to lose this as it is my biggest plant.

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keep it real.

keep it real.

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zoomer428 said:
This isn't the first post I've made but I had been told this is very irregular damage which I assume is why I didn't get any help but I'm rolling the dice and calling on some vets or maybe someone could direct me where I could get some more help?

Bean is a gelato glue from barneys farm. All was going well until a couple weeks ago, these spots start forming. Naturally I assume it's nothing but it has grown worse. I just cal mag the soil and made sure the ph was correct. Both of which are good. I did feed it a extremely small amount of nutes in two seperate feedings, I can almost guarantee this is not a result of that. It is under 220w of light. I have continually moved them up and the plant still chases them. It is still growing very fast. Someone mentioned it may be some form of infection which would make sense. It is in a tent and a temp controlled environment. It is not

Any help or direction to help is greatly, greatly appreciated. I do not want to lose this as it is my biggest plant.

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I would water to runoff and check runoff ph, everything points to a PH problem.
 
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To properly flush you need to put three times the volume of the pot in water ie., if it's a 5 gallon pot you need to run 15 gallons of water through it.
 
keep it real.

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zoomer428 said:
I flushed it with 2 gals of ph water, and today a gallon of ph'd water with some calmag. Still think it needs a run through again?
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What soil are you using? I’m assuming something preloaded like fox farms ocean forest.
I would check the ph and ppm of your runoff everytime you water to just look for changes or problems.
if you water with ph 6.5 in and 5.5 is coming out you know you have a problem you need to address before you becomes a bigger problem, you can do the same with ppm of your runoff.
 
zoomer428

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keep it real. said:
What soil are you using? I’m assuming something preloaded like fox farms ocean forest.
I would check the ph and ppm of your runoff everytime you water to just look for changes or problems.
if you water with ph 6.5 in and 5.5 is coming out you know you have a problem you need to address before you becomes a bigger problem, you can do the same with ppm of your runoff.
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It is a mix of ffof and black gold. I will check the run off a little later tonight i will go to flush it once more. I however do not have a ppm meter. Maybe I should go get one. Also what should I do if I find a difference in the water ph vs run off ph? Just flush it until its correct?
 
keep it real.

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zoomer428 said:
It is a mix of ffof and black gold. I will check the run off a little later tonight i will go to flush it once more. I however do not have a ppm meter. Maybe I should go get one. Also what should I do if I find a difference in the water ph vs run off ph? Just flush it until its correct?
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I don’t recommend flushing, you will wash the nutrients and the PH buffers from the soil even more.
my guess is it being peat based soil the ph is low and needs some lime to bring it back up and start a feeding regime.
 
zoomer428

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keep it real. said:
I don’t recommend flushing, you will wash the nutrients and the PH buffers from the soil even more.
my guess is it being peat based soil the ph is low and needs some lime to bring it back up and start a feeding regime.
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That would make sense. I'll check the run off here soon and report back. Thank you all!
 
zoomer428

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keep it real. said:
I don’t recommend flushing, you will wash the nutrients and the PH buffers from the soil even more.
my guess is it being peat based soil the ph is low and needs some lime to bring it back up and start a feeding regime.
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So, its kinda hard to tell using the general hydroponics droplet ph tester, but it seems to be in the slightly yellow-orangish color (between 5.0 which is completely orange and 6.0 which is a yellow) i think you may be right in that the soil is acidic. Is there anything I might have around the house I could add like milk to make it more base?
 
DancesWithWeeds

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Have you Googled photos of HLVd? I don't have any idea if that's what it is but I'm recommending that when something comes up that hard to identify to take a look at the pictures and read the symptoms. Right now they say it's in California and Oregon, but who know how far it has spread.

It only takes a few minutes and It's something we all need to know. I hope that's not what you have but some of the pictures look like it.
 
zoomer428

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DancesWithWeeds said:
Have you Googled photos of HLVd? I don't have any idea if that's what it is but I'm recommending that when something comes up that hard to identify to take a look at the pictures and read the symptoms. Right now they say it's in California and Oregon, but who know how far it has spread.

It only takes a few minutes and It's something we all need to know. I hope that's not what you have but some of the pictures look like it.
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Interesting. It certainly looks similar. I am worried this is some sort of virus but, I have another plant right next to this one and it is still okay.
 
DeadHeadX

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I’m not a veteran, but it looks like you might be dealing with various deficiencies. You haven’t fed it much and the original soil may well be spent of nutrients, depending on transplant times and stuff. Maybe she’s hungry? Flowering plants have high demands.
 
zoomer428

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DeadHeadX said:
I’m not a veteran, but it looks like you might be dealing with various deficiencies. You haven’t fed it much and the original soil may well be spent of nutrients, depending on transplant times and stuff. Maybe she’s hungry? Flowering plants have high demands.
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Def possible, I fed twice a small amount, I figured the soil would be hot enough to feed for a long time though.
 
PopAndSonGrows

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Don't waste any time checking pH of runoff, it means nothing.

Calmag is of no use in soil. My opinion, the plant is just generally hungry and might have a slight lockout from too much calcium and/or magnesium.

Just make sure proper pH goes in, and if you're using liquid nutrients with soil, the basic pattern is Feed/water/feed, or water/feed/water depending on how rich your soil is. Skip occasional waterings because soil does need some dryback.
 
PopAndSonGrows

PopAndSonGrows

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It sounds like you're treating your soil like a soilless medium, and that's why the plant is reacting.

No biggie, doesn't seem super serious & plant should bounce back within a week or two if you get everything dialed in
 
Drop That Sound

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DancesWithWeeds said:
Have you Googled photos of HLVd? I don't have any idea if that's what it is but I'm recommending that when something comes up that hard to identify to take a look at the pictures and read the symptoms. Right now they say it's in California and Oregon, but who know how far it has spread.

It only takes a few minutes and It's something we all need to know. I hope that's not what you have but some of the pictures look like it.
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Pretty sure it looks like too low of a PH like the guys above are saying, or maybe just overwatered a bit. Locking out phosphorus.. pretty common. HLVD is invisible boogie man, lol. The only way to tell is with PCR that give false positives all the time.
 
zoomer428

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Drop That Sound said:
Pretty sure it looks like too low of a PH like the guys above are saying, or maybe just overwatered a bit. Locking out phosphorus.. pretty common. HLVD is invisible boogie man, lol. The only way to tell is with PCR that give false positives all the time.
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Heavily doubt its overwatered, but the ph is def possible. The run off was reading slightly below what is optimal. Anything I might have at home to raise it? Would milk work lol?
 
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