Sugar/Crystal Production

hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
recently took down a few plant and I noticed a huge difference
in crystal/sugar production in the same strain. the only difference
was color, some were yellowed up and others were green with no
yellow. now take in mind there feeding was the same and plant are
moved around so none got to hog the main light sorse. K the yellowed
up plant were like fire sugar was off the hook and the green non yellow
one didnt have as much? so the big question IS allowing your plant to
just yellow and soak up all the life out of the plant by cuting back early
on nutes to case sugar/crystal production a plasable theory? up to now
I just feed to the last week and fush with no reduction of nutes, but this
makes me think cuting back does something unknown to me?
 
taint

taint

Well-Known Member
Not sure what yer meaning,the plant material or the trichs.
I stop feeding about 2 weeks before harvest which results in the fan leaves yellowing up or fading as I tend to think of it.
No flushing just normal watering.
This in my experiance results in a much better smoke,smoother and more flavorful.
I reckon that's prolly more of an opinion based on my experiance.
I do see a very slight decline in yield but that's not a priority for me.
As long as the bud leaves aren't fading any I don't sweat it.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
taint said:
Not sure what yer meaning,the plant material or the trichs.
I stop feeding about 2 weeks before harvest which results in the fan leaves yellowing up or fading as I tend to think of it.
No flushing just normal watering.
This in my experiance results in a much better smoke,smoother and more flavorful.
I reckon that's prolly more of an opinion based on my experiance.
I do see a very slight decline in yield but that's not a priority for me.
As long as the bud leaves aren't fading any I don't sweat it.
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it just seem the ones that are real green looking dont have as much trichs as the ones that are yellow
its making me feal that the decline of nutes causes the large fan leaves to yellow and thats normal but
for some reason those plant are the fire super dank, and the others seem to have less. losing yield to me
isnt a priority to me either, geting the best smoke is, Taint have you noticed a trend like this before?
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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By giving the plant what it needs at all times, you'll realize it's genetic potential. You're suggesting shorting the plant in effort to get more of something, which makes no sense.

Fed up until harvest day which is when the pic was taken:

 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
homebrewer said:
By giving the plant what it needs at all times, you'll realize it's genetic potential. You're suggesting shorting the plant in effort to get more of something, which makes no sense.

Fed up until harvest day which is when the pic was taken:

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not realy a sugesting just wondering if there was some hidden link between plant that go alittle def. in the end over one that
have all they need. thats some good looking smoke you got there, and you didnt do a flush? I guess im just trying to make some
kind of sense out of this.
 
Alex Kelly

Alex Kelly

Active Member
homebrewer said:
By giving the plant what it needs at all times, you'll realize it's genetic potential. You're suggesting shorting the plant in effort to get more of something, which makes no sense.

Fed up until harvest day which is when the pic was taken:

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Any chance that is JTR ir JC? If not what is that beauty. Also, was that organically grown? If not how did no flush effect the taste.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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That is a 25+ year old clone only strain called Dumpster that I picked up in Ohio a few years ago when I was working there. It was grown in hydro, no flush and it tastes like herb should taste. The trick is to not overfeed but that's not really the subject here. These plants are resilient. You can treat them like crap and still get a product that 'gets the job done'. Over the years, I've found that the better you treat your plants, the better they'll treat you. I don't subscribe to any 'tricks' to create stress or to induce more of something because i've tried those tricks at one point and it's just bad gardening. As a community, we tend to over-complicate everything from how to germ seeds to when the best time to harvest is. Just keep them healthy and their full genetic potential will shine.
 
Alex Kelly

Alex Kelly

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Hahah arite just a guess I was was wrong but i dunno about the no flush. In my personal expeience unflushed buds taste quite bad and chemically and usually stay lit on fire in the bowl after you stop applying a flame. The best tasting buds I have experienced were grown organically in soil but you wern't disagreeing with that i'm just sayin hydro is not going to taste as good as organic but a no flush method in hydro IMO produce a poor tasting finished product, worse tasting than hydro buds that are flushed. And by hydro I mean grown using chemical nutrients.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
im geting the feeling this question of mine is geting misunderstood. im not trying to stress anything to get something
that i think maybe there!! I know its there and have got it most of the time. just stateing that I noticed a diference
between the 2. and its not just this last time ive seen it on a few other take downs. I dont feel cuting back on nute early
is bad if it is adding a posative to the quality! maybe im rong but the plant that were greener also had mostly white hairs
and the ones with the yellow were 80% brown aand a shit load more crystals, and this was cut down at start of week 10
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
Alex Kelly said:
In my personal expeience unflushed buds taste quite bad and chemically and usually stay lit on fire in the bowl after you stop applying a flame.
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They tasted bad because they were grown/cured poorly.

The best tasting buds I have experienced were grown organically in soil but you wern't disagreeing with that i'm just sayin hydro is not going to taste as good as organic but a no flush method in hydro IMO produce a poor tasting finished product, worse tasting than hydro buds that are flushed. And by hydro I mean grown using chemical nutrients.
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Plants cannot uptake organic nutrients. Read the first half of this first post, this is what is going on when you think you are 'flushing': https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/409622-truth-about-flushing.html

but the plant that were greener also had mostly white hairs
and the ones with the yellow were 80% brown aand a shit load more crystals, and this was cut down at start of week 10
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Sounds like one was ripe and one wasn't.
 
taint

taint

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I remembered my point now,the plant on the left looks better..........no?
The plant on the right smokes better.....................yes.
Please don't link that shithole flushing thread,the misinformation being spread in there by some seriously inexperianced growers is mind boggling.
 

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homebrewer

homebrewer

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taint said:
Please don't link that shithole flushing thread,the misinformation being spread in there by some seriously inexperianced growers is mind boggling.
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Misinformation? I hope you're not confusing the drowning part with the part that I'm referring to. It's plant bio 101. Anyways, if this is a flushing thread, I'm out.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
never was intended to be a flushing thread!!! more so the ifs and the whys between a greener plant vs a def. looking plant at harvest.
and some being way more crystals then other.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Yah I hear yah, sinse i started this thread ive done a bunch of tests and my opion
On it is this.

Plants that go full term with a good flush seem to show more crystal and trich production the ones that just get
Chopped, now to clear the flushing, when i say flush I mean just feed as normal but just strait water theres no
Drowning going on or extra watering. Now ive pulled down enough in my day to know that I feel this true.
 
RanTyr

RanTyr

Active Member
hellraizer30 said:
Now ive pulled down enough in my day to know that I feel this true.
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This is why no one is accepting your anecdotal evidence as real evidence. Even you cannot commit to your own data.

There are multiple flushing techniques. The only methods scientifically proven to increase trichome production, that I have come across and researched, are near death flushes; a good dark period does more for trichome production and potency than any method of flushing given optimal growing conditions.

Flushing is primarily for taste and burn quality.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Well i dont see any grows under your belt or
Proof you know anything about growing so say what
You want theres a ton of troll and i guess heres
Another to funny
 
Autopsy

Autopsy

Active Member
hellraizer30 said:
recently took down a few plant and I noticed a huge difference
in crystal/sugar production in the same strain. the only difference
was color, some were yellowed up and others were green with no
yellow. now take in mind there feeding was the same and plant are
moved around so none got to hog the main light sorse. K the yellowed
up plant were like fire sugar was off the hook and the green non yellow
one didnt have as much? so the big question IS allowing your plant to
just yellow and soak up all the life out of the plant by cuting back early
on nutes to case sugar/crystal production a plasable theory? up to now
I just feed to the last week and fush with no reduction of nutes, but this
makes me think cuting back does something unknown to me?
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I see, but were they all clones of the same strain? A single mother? Or just seeds of the same strain? It makes a difference, could of had some phenos going in there with different characteristics.
 
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