sum ma bitch.

Okay, so some kind of critter came in and literally topped my plant for me! The only problem is, it did it a little too soon. I'm worried about what's going to happen, I've never topped a plant this small.

Its OG kush (which honestly I'm wondering about attitudes honesty with strains, BC this og kush is young but it has really short fat leaves. It looks IDENTICAL to my Bubba kush when I started it, but maybe more hairs on the petioles.). It has really wide short leaves, and its only on like the 5th node, the sixth was just baaaaarely poking up and go munched off or something.



I guess it might just have an indica phenotype which sucks BC I'm wanting to verticle scrog some tall lanky plants.

So what do you think will happen? Will it try pushing up through the damaged part like a fim, or just wait to grow the two side branches at the node, or turn the branches below it into tops or what? The branches that come from that top node haven't even started growing leaves yet, but the node below it has them starting to form.

Those pics are from yesterday, just ran in and snapped another. It looks like the side branches from that spot are starting to form their first leaves, but it also looks like the middle part is trying to push through. I'm really hoping this little mishap winds up giving me four tops.

yeah i was going to say it look fimmed

I had a light fim one of my tops i ended up topping it further down, cloning it now i have a cool 4 cola plant budding all over

Niiice, yeah looking at it it really is starting to look like its gonna give me four tops. Soooo much nicer getting all four at once, instead of having to top two seperate times and slow them down twice. But its definitely looking like the branches will form, plus I'm starting to see growth at the center too on either side, but I won't know for sure for another day or so BC of the damage.

If it works I'm gonna find this bug and offer him money or smoke to keep fimming them for me

I was gonna say, maybe said pest did you a favor LMAO

if you find him see if he has a cousin...

Yeah, the branches at the node are still very slow to form but the center growth is DEFINITELY pushing up; can't tell any leaves forming or anything, but the fact that the actual damaged tissue is pushing up is a good sign, BC if it grows (even if it just grows one top), the branches at that node will form tops as well.

I'm definitely also wondering how much its gonna slow this plant down, being stressed at this early stage.

He mustve been quite the fat little fucker, too, BC that top leaf set was the size of a house fly. So that meal for him was like a salad at golden corral with 4 return trips.

hahahahaa

naw man, it shouldn't slow it down too bad, maybe a week or two? Did you remove any straggly plant material, or was it a clean "break"? I'm a mistaholic, if something picks on my plant, I confiscate and mist wherever the plant area is damaged.

tell that fat fucker you're gonna get the seven dust after him LOL

Hahaha yeah no shit. I know what you mean about the clean and mist, I have really nice fiskar snips so I was able to get in and at least make it a clean 45° angle, I haven't misted or anything do you mean just with a sprayer? BC I actually foliar fed tonight with ancient amber, its part of the roots organics line and its only a supplement so not too hot. I went ahead and sprayed him since he hasn't gotten any nutes yet or anything.

I also have a tear from when I was trying to spread 4 tops on one of my plants, its one I topped once and then topped each top for four. I taped it to try and keep the tear from spreading, and I'm trying to let it heal before I tie them down.


What do you think would be good to put on the open wound? I was almost thinking of just putting some Vaseline or A and D ointment on it to keep it from drying, BC its all the way to the center phloem. Its been this way for several days now with no leaf discoloration or signs of losing the top so I think it will heal but it would be nice to put something on it to help bit a little. I'd like to get this guy in flower before too long. I even thought about putting rooting powder on it, but figured that was a little too unpredictable

When I was training my first harvest this quarter, I broke the second main stem (had a nice cola on it) almost clean off! I immediately misted it with my water bottle and a dab of rooting hormone. Taped it up and prayed like crazy!!
She healed up very nicely, just remember to use kit gloves after taping and don't put any stress on it for at least two weeks. Following that rule, she did great!

P.S. forgo the ointment, k? if you don't have rooting gel use a dab of honey, or some tree sap. It'll heal it fine too.

Ah, perfect! Honey or tree sap, thanks. I knew there was something nice and natural that would help it to help itself, lol. Plus my grow is totally, 100% organic so far, and I'm running realllly hot on my nutes..ffof soil and the roots organics master pack. I start them on the ff,and then work up with just the Buddha grow, then start the 5 mil schedule after several weeks.

I think I might put some of the rooting powder on there, too. Would that work as well as the gel or should I go with some honey?

+ rep for the help, a lot of advice on here is quick and not very detailed, or just bad advice in general. Usually a one-liner and then BOUNCE! Like, what is this, a bar? Lol

It looks fine. As for wanting to vert grow why did you pick OG Kush if you want stretchy plants?!

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Ah, perfect! Honey or tree sap, thanks. I knew there was something nice and natural that would help it to help itself, lol. Plus my grow is totally, 100% organic so far, and I'm running realllly hot on my nutes..ffof soil and the roots organics master pack. I start them on the ff,and then work up with just the Buddha grow, then start the 5 mil schedule after several weeks.

I think I might put some of the rooting powder on there, too. Would that work as well as the gel or should I go with some honey?

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I suppose you could mix a tiny bit in the honey/sap, but it shouLd be fine without it.

+ rep for the help, a lot of advice on here is quick and not very detailed, or just bad advice in general. Usually a one-liner and then BOUNCE! Like, what is this, a bar? Lol

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Thanks! always happy to help out a fellow noob, I still consider myself one

hahaa yeah don't ya love those! I know what it's like to have a question and get a lot of undetailed help thank God for those great souls that have helped me out here, otherwise I'd still be growing under one CFL LMAO....I've come a long way baby!

OK, are you about to tell me that og kush is an indica? BC someone else said this and I could have sworn that when I looked it up before ordering it that it was a mostly sativa hybrid.

And my vert grow is more just like stadium seating, and I thought of hanging some net for my screen but instead I'm building little individual screens on bamboo rods that are fixed for each plant in the bucket. Not necessarily a vert scrog with the vertical trellis between the light and the plants.

But if og is supposed to be a bushy plant then I don't guess attitudes screwed me on the strain. I've heard several stories about people ordering mostly sativa hybrids and popping a 5 pack to get 4 indica phenos and 1 50/50 hybrid pheno. I mean I know they can't guarantee pheno but if they come from a reputable breeder they should at least be somewhat consistent.

It's a KUSH... Depending on which breeder you bought it from it might vary a bit but Kush are typically Indica dominant. OG KUSH: 75% Indica and genetically is composed by Lemon Thai / Pakistani crossed with the famous ChemDawg. I doubt the seedbank screwed you, it is possible though.

@ roseypeach-- no doubt!! Hey, I've seen some decent shit under some CFL's, but it wasn't enough for me so I picked up a 400w metal halide. Tuesday I'm heading to my local grow store and picking up a galaxy sun system digital ballast with the turbo setting and a 1000w hps hortilux bulb. I've been vegging for 2 months almost now from seed, and my first couple of plants are just dying to get some 12/12 action. I had some slow growth and problems in the beginning, but like you said-- a helpful soul, can save a grow.

ThorGanjason said:

@ roseypeach-- no doubt!! Hey, I've seen some decent shit under some CFL's, but it wasn't enough for me so I picked up a 400w metal halide. Tuesday I'm heading to my local grow store and picking up a galaxy sun system digital ballast with the turbo setting and a 1000w hps hortilux bulb. I've been vegging for 2 months almost now from seed, and my first couple of plants are just dying to get some 12/12 action. I had some slow growth and problems in the beginning, but like you said-- a helpful soul, can save a grow.

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Heres some advice. Dim that ballast down as low as it can go. Your plants look over watered and reeeeeeediculously small for how old they are. Screw the 12/12 because they need 18/6 for at least twoish weeks in good conditions. If its not as big as your hand forget about it. At least the 1000 watt will make you have to water more and get that skinny bitch humpin.

Are you wearing a girls ring?

ThorGanjason said:

@ roseypeach-- no doubt!! Hey, I've seen some decent shit under some CFL's, but it wasn't enough for me so I picked up a 400w metal halide. Tuesday I'm heading to my local grow store and picking up a galaxy sun system digital ballast with the turbo setting and a 1000w hps hortilux bulb. I've been vegging for 2 months almost now from seed, and my first couple of plants are just dying to get some 12/12 action. I had some slow growth and problems in the beginning, but like you said-- a helpful soul, can save a grow.

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yessiree! you'll have to let me know what that system runs you, I'm in the market, just depends on the price and if its gonna save me money

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Heres some advice. Dim that ballast down as low as it can go. Your plants look over watered and reeeeeeediculously small for how old they are. Screw the 12/12 because they need 18/6 for at least twoish weeks in good conditions. If its not as big as your hand forget about it. At least the 1000 watt will make you have to water more and get that skinny bitch humpin.

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I only have 1 plant that old, well 2 but 1 is an experiment survivor (larry, you'll see him on the far right. He's been through all kinds of shit, lol). The plant was abot a foot taller before i tied the two tops down, thats why there are so many "tops" on it, branches going straight up. I lost about two weeks of growth early on from over watering and temperature problems so its basically a 6 week plant. The next oldest ones are like 6 weeks from seed but again they lost two weeks so they are like month old plants.

And yeah, they're definitely not over watered, I was over watering bad so I switched to smart pots that aerate well and I only water every 4-5 days. My plants kind of "go to sleep" at night and "wake up" and perk up in the morning, that picture was right as the light came on.
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The Bubba kush is looking good considering I had to take all his first fan leaves off due to a kitten attack. He's about 5-6 weeks from seed and went through he cold spell with no growth.


And I wanted to update the post with a BOOm-sHAkaLAKa!!! Pretty sure this bug-done fim job is going to give me four tops. The branches are forming on either side of the damage, and the cut is pushing up two distinct pieces of tissue. I've read fimming can give you even more than four tops sometimes but a lot of that authors advice has seemed a little questionable.


And rosey peach, I'm getting the ballast for $300 USD, and the bulbs are expensive as shit, the 1000w hortilux is about $130. I did a quick search online and found the ballast for 30 bucks cheaper and the bulb for like 20 cheaper, bit I'm going through my local store because A) he's trowing in a display tent that he had set up growing salad and the inspectors made him take it down (?), and B) if my ballast fucks up for whatever reason, I don't have to send it off and let my plants die while I wait for a new one.

There are definitely cheaper options on bulbs but I've seen comparison tests used with really precise equipment and the hortilux bulb was hands down the brightest, even on different ballasts, across the board.

I was thinking of running it at like 400 for an hour in the morning, then six hundred, and keep going up to turbo and then back down by the end of the day. For one I figured it might mimic the sun better, but I'm mainly doing it to see how my temperatures hold up BC I might not be able to run that hot. Luckily I already have a nice 6" hurricane fan that I've been waiting to use