Sunshine Systems Growspot led lights.. Thoughts please!

I have wanted to order
http://www.amazon.com/Sunshine-Systems-GSSPOT-GrowSpot-Spectrum/dp/B001Q1MT74/ref=pd_sim_hg_1

for a while now. I know it is not something I can use by itself to grow multiple plants or anything like that. My last experience was cfl only and I was curious if anyone had experience with these and thought I could use it in the place of a few cfl lights...

Thoughts or suggestions? I really have a hard time deciding what is good or bad in LED lights...there seem to be 1000 choice....

Thank you for any help!

Well like you said there definitely not intended as a main source of light, however I can see them being beneficial for getting light to "hidden" or "shaded" areas, actually if you got a Y splitter and one of these: (---->CLICK HERE<----) you would really be able to get some great supplemental lighting to the exact areas that need it the most, using those LED spot lights or CFL's. Personally I'm not too sure the performance of those LED spot lights justify the cost, I mean at 12W each it seems you would need several of them to cover a small area and at $80 a pop there not exactly cheap. I don't know, I guess if you can afford them you could use that flex extension + Y-splitters and get some good coverage to the bottom of your plant/s, however I don't think this would be practical for large scale grows.

Thank you for the reply, and the link. I think I will get one and try it out... That and maybe a small panel...Those extenders you linked are exactly what I need. my set up is very small.. generally start off with 2 or 3 wait to sex them and end up with the best female, so only one plant for personal use. If interested in its performance I'll be happy to post it here with pictures once I get it running.
Again thanks for the reply!

SativaMe@420 said:

Well like you said there definitely not intended as a main source of light, however I can see them being beneficial for getting light to "hidden" or "shaded" areas, actually if you got a Y splitter and one of these: View attachment 1998211 (---->CLICK HERE<----) you would really be able to get some great supplemental lighting to the exact areas that need it the most, using those LED spot lights or CFL's. Personally I'm not too sure the performance of those LED spot lights justify the cost, I mean at 12W each it seems you would need several of them to cover a small area and at $80 a pop there not exactly cheap. I don't know, I guess if you can afford them you could use that flex extension + Y-splitters and get some good coverage to the bottom of your plant/s, however I don't think this would be practical for large scale grows.

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Holy shit...........i didn't know these extensions existed...........awesome.

I don't know if they are exactly the same, but I have a couple spotlights from advanced that look just like those for the same price. http://www.advancedledlights.com/products/SpectraBoost-Grow-Spotlight-%2d-15w-High-Intensity-LED-Grow-Light.html

You can get different models even, full spectrum, all red, or far red. If you're also getting an led panel, I'd recommend just supplementing with the small spotlights during fruiting/flowering with either the all red or far red models. I have a couple of the far red ones.

puffenuff said:

I don't know if they are exactly the same, but I have a couple spotlights from advanced that look just like those for the same price. http://www.advancedledlights.com/products/SpectraBoost-Grow-Spotlight-%2d-15w-High-Intensity-LED-Grow-Light.html

You can get different models even, full spectrum, all red, or far red. If you're also getting an led panel, I'd recommend just supplementing with the small spotlights during fruiting/flowering with either the all red or far red models. I have a couple of the far red ones.

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Hey zhdourden, you should check out these LED spot lights puffenuff linked to, they are the same price as the Sunshine ones yet there 15Wea so 3W more and like puffenuff said they come in Full Spectrum, Blue, Red & Far Red. So pufenuff or anyone for that matter, what's the difference between Red and Far Red?

Well, you asked for thoughts... this is garbage. A rip-off. Dont take my word on it, even if I have spent months researching LED. Just read the reviews in the ad you posted. "While this is great for my AC bills, it's not so great for my garden" or another--"The bulb worked well for about 3 months of daily use, then it stopped working altogether" Look, if you want to spend 80 or so bucks on an LED you could get the Blackstar 50w for $83.00--$89.00 Not that you will getting much coverage with it, but at least it will do what it says it will do: Grow something in a very small space. http://www.ebay.com/itm/50W-6-Band-Lighthouse-Hydro-LED-Grow-Light-/280758494048?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415e82a360#ht_8800wt_952 --- But for the money you might as well get a 100 or 135 watt. The little extra $ would be well worth it. Yes, its difficult to figure out what is what with LED. Go with a company that has a proven track record with LED. Also, go with a company with good customer support and a rep to maintain. Like HTG for example. But this thing you posted? Forget about it.

SativaMe@420 said:

Hey zhdourden, you should check out these LED spot lights puffenuff linked to, they are the same price as the Sunshine ones yet there 15Wea so 3W more and like puffenuff said they come in Full Spectrum, Blue, Red & Far Red. So pufenuff or anyone for that matter, what's the difference between Red and Far Red?

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My understanding is that Red is key for photosythesis and flowering and far red will help to induce flowering, make flowers more dense, and can even cause the chemicals which react to light to stay active for up to a couple hours after the lights go off suposedly giving you plant "extra" daylight hours sans light. I've never done any true experiments with them, only based on readings, but my observations based on far red use in my own grows indicates the flowers exposed to my far red spotlights are more dense than those that recieve less or don't get any exposure at all.

Like the op said, these are supplemental lights and arent expected to fully grow anything. But they are good for targeting extra spectrums to acheive desired effects, are a quick low wattage solution to boost any grow cycle, are small in design allowing for grow room modularity, and can screw into any socket. I wouldnt call them a ripoff by any means, but will point out they are more for niche growers who know what they need.

If you're going to spend some money on an LED, you might save your money and wait to purchase a product from a company that has had consistently good/decent reviews and journals to back them up otherwise it could be a waste of money and disappointment...Buying a product from eBay can be successful but I
d rather go through a reliable company itself (although they do put their products on eBay sometimes) and get customer service, a warranty, and the safety of knowing that the company is handling my order.

2011-2012 technology has really been making LEDs a more worthwhile buy though. Check out the Pro-Grow line, Spectras, Blackstars, Advanced LED, these are the companies that aren't the highest cost. They are still considered "expensive" because it is an initial investment, but the savings come later with electricity and no needs to setup ducting etc, for your light.

If you are looking for a small light, the companies listed above do sell LED spotlights and UFO's, which will be more effective than a no-name off eBay.

But diligence on ebay can and will pay off. You just ahve be be sure you are getting the brand you looked for, lots of them re arrange words in brand names to make thiers sound a lot like the one you want when its really China garbaaage. Right now there are 2 spectra 180w panels on ebay for less than $400 bid on both. just an example

Absolutely you can find some excellent deals on ebay and Craigslist, I just came across this 357 Magnum LED Panel that retails for $1200 and the guys only asking for $400, might even be able to haggle it down to $350 but even at $400 its a steal, every few weeks to couple months I see deals like this and just wish I had the extra cash.

I use one of these lights for seedlings and clones, it works well, i paid £25/$40 off ebay. You could not flower with it.

here is a picture, one is with the flash on

BenRound said:

Well, you asked for thoughts... this is garbage. A rip-off. Dont take my word on it, even if I have spent months researching LED. Just read the reviews in the ad you posted. "While this is great for my AC bills, it's not so great for my garden" or another--"The bulb worked well for about 3 months of daily use, then it stopped working altogether" Look, if you want to spend 80 or so bucks on an LED you could get the Blackstar 50w for $83.00--$89.00 Not that you will getting much coverage with it, but at least it will do what it says it will do: Grow something in a very small space. http://www.ebay.com/itm/50W-6-Band-Lighthouse-Hydro-LED-Grow-Light-/280758494048?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415e82a360#ht_8800wt_952 --- But for the money you might as well get a 100 or 135 watt. The little extra $ would be well worth it. Yes, its difficult to figure out what is what with LED. Go with a company that has a proven track record with LED. Also, go with a company with good customer support and a rep to maintain. Like HTG for example. But this thing you posted? Forget about it.

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^ This retard didn't even read the review, the part "While this is great for my AC bills, it's not so great for my garden" he forgot to add the part, my apartment is shaded by huge trees....