thanks match! im from tac too. i just was told that my cut maybe so old. i never have had a mother plant, on any of my varieties. i just take clones before i put em in flower. all the same genes. right? anyway, i notice a few nanners on mine. was told to let some go, and collect the seed. run out all my old line, and plant the seeds, "re-establishing' the genetics to new. so i was told. i like the plant. i think ive actually been under feeding this one. leaves yellow early. one time, i got 3.5 of each of five plants. not since. only thing i can think, is i was using the foxfarm line, and i was probably administering more nutes. that and to crowded. i am cutting down my streins. now its god, aurora ind. and madshack. i have one hercules in a gal pot. i have some seeds i havent even tried yet. like darkstar. i had some blueberry seeds i was not impressed. of course, between the breeds, and the phenos, any plant can be hot. my hottie is my a.i right now. i have never bred em. i am learning to selectively prune, now, to help with elbow room, and hopefully., yield. not sure what one can expect from a indoor a.i? last round, under 2 oz. but they were put in early, and they dont stretch. if you can beleive it, this madshack has even thicker trunks and stems then the auroara. unreal. chat again!