The Need For Wetting Agents In Growing In Peat

hotrodharley

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I don't start many threads. However I keep seeing problems that if they're not caused by poor water absorption they're certainly affected by. If you have ever poured water on peat, or old fine desert dust, and watched it bead up or roll off you've seen why wetting agents are used. I have commented many times on here about the use of dishwashing liquid to act as a surfactant. Here's the abstract for a paper on wetting agents and specifically peat.

"Abstract:
In the last decade the use of sphagnum peat moss as well as other types of peat has increased substantially in the production of horticultural crops. Most of the good horticultural sphagnum comes from bogs in Northern European and Scandinavian countries or from Canada and Ireland. In order to reduce the shipping weight of the peat bales, it is necessary to ship the peat as dry as possible. Air-dried peat is extremely difficult to rewet and considerable frustration is therefore encountered by growers. Also, many peat products such as pots and soilless mixes are being used and the wetting problem in these products is a serious concern.

Wetting agents have been employed in various industries to increase reaction rates and facilitate many processes. Wetting agents are substances which are added to surface coatings, water, or oils to increase spreading and penetrating action. Wetting agents belong to a group of a more general class of materials called "surface active agents" hence the term "surfactants". Characteristic of their properties is the ability to lower surface and interfacial tensions.

The initial wetting of peat and peat products is the real problem since they will absorb water quite freely once they are wet. The primary aim of this research was to develop a simple method for evaluation of an unknown wetting agent. This method, hopefully, could be used anywhere in the world and the data should be applicable and comparable everywhere. Such a method must have a twofold function: evaluation of wetting ability and phytotoxicity effects."

To start when I transplant if it's not moist damp fluffy substrate I grab the spray bottle with water and the magic drop of dawn.

Further you should use a wetting agent when applying foliar feeds or supplements. Any soap will do. I'm just a fan of Dawn. Anything that can quickly clean a dirty set of Harley flywheels is good stuff.
 

Boatguy

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I never noticed this issue until i switched to smartpots... Really annoying when your water is bleeding out of the pot inches below the top.
My totally dry houseplants in regular pots water fine if i use warm water. Not the same result in fabric
 

hotrodharley

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I never noticed this issue until i switched to smartpots... Really annoying when your water is bleeding out of the pot inches below the top.
My totally dry houseplants in regular pots water fine if i use warm water. Not the same result in fabric
Use soap the first feed or water. Apply very slowly and evenly. Even in stages. A container should easily take 25% of the medium volume in liquid. A 5-gallon bag? 1.25 gallons. Once it's totally saturated it's important to not let it dry too much or guess what? Risk dry islands in the medium. Water going around instead of being absorbed into.
 

Boatguy

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Use soap the first feed or water. Apply very slowly and evenly. Even in stages. A container should easily take 25% of the medium volume in liquid. A 5-gallon bag? 1.25 gallons. Once it's totally saturated it's important to not let it dry too much or guess what? Risk dry islands in the medium. Water going around instead of being absorbed into.
Was considering going back to plastic pots, but i will give this a shot. Love how plants in fabric dont really get rootbound, but hate the hassle of the watering
 

Jjgrow420

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Lol at a single drop used once at the beginning after transplant. But whatever. My plants don't act radioactive.
Ya don't take that the wrong way I use it too sometimes but a way better wetting agent is yucca it's natural and it lasts in the soil much much longer
Totally agreeing with your post just offering a different natural option as well
 

myke

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Ive never had a problem,out of the bag its dry and it absorbs water just fine.After the first watering its never allowed to go dry so that must help.
 

Jjgrow420

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Ive never had a problem,out of the bag its dry and it absorbs water just fine.After the first watering its never allowed to go dry so that must help.
I buy pure coarse peat and good luck getting water into it short of squeezing it underwater. That can be alot of work. Or just sprinkle some yucca powder in the mix and in the water first time and watch it absorb. If you're using a ready mix it's already got a wetting agent mixed in.
 

myke

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I buy pure coarse peat and good luck getting water into it short of squeezing it underwater. That can be alot of work. Or just sprinkle some yucca powder in the mix and in the water first time and watch it absorb. If you're using a ready mix it's already got a wetting agent mixed in.
Plain sphagnum peat, a compressed bail.I have to break it up but never a watering issue.It could have something in it.Its the cheapest I could find.
 

hotrodharley

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Whatever doesn't float your peat!
It's only for the initial watering in after transplant. Also for foliar. Never had an issue. A lot of us just don't have access to a lot of supplies without sending for them. But I agree on the yucca. Apaches used to use it to wash their hair.
 

Jjgrow420

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It's only for the initial watering in after transplant. Also for foliar. Never had an issue. A lot of us just don't have access to a lot of supplies without sending for them. But I agree on the yucca. Apaches used to use it to wash their hair.
Ya it's good shit. I'm lucky to have black swallow living soils not too far away and they carry really high quality organic amendments
 
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