The Nitrogen Cycle

Medi 1

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didnt see a nutrition section so ill throw it here. if its in wrong erea let me know. ive got others ill add as i go.


The Nitrogen Cycle
The nitrogen cycle is the most complex of the cycles of elements that make up biological systems. This is due to the importance and prevalence of N in cellular metabolism, the diversity of types of nitrogen metabolism, and the existence of the element in so many forms. Procaryotes are essentially involved in the biological nitrogen cycle in three unique processes.
Nitrogen Fixation: this process converts N2 in the atmosphere into NH3 (ammonia), which is assimilated into amino acids and proteins. Nitrogen fixation occurs in many free-living bacteria such as clostridia, azotobacters and cyanobacteria, and in symbiotic bacteria such as Rhizobium and Frankia, which associate with plant roots to form characteristic nodules. Biological nitrogen fixation is the most important way that N2 from the air enters into biological systems.
N2 ----------------> 2 NH3 nitrogen fixation
Anaerobic Respiration: this relates to the use of oxidized forms of nitrogen (NO3 and NO2) as final electron acceptors for respiration. Anaerobic respirers such as Bacillus and Pseudomonads are common soil inhabitants that will use nitrate (NO3) as an electron acceptor. NO3 is reduced to NO2 (nitrite) and then to a gaseous form of nitrogen such as N2 or N2O (nitrous oxide). The process is called denitrification. (A related process conducted by some Bacillus species, called dissimilatory nitrate reduction reduces NO3 to ammonia (NH3), but this is not considered denitrification.) Denitrifying bacteria are typically facultative microbes that respire whenever oxygen is available by aerobic respiration. If O2 is unavailable for respiration, they will turn to the alternative anaerobic respiration which uses NO3. Since NO3 is a common and expensive form of fertilizer in soils, denitrification may not be so good for agriculture, and one rationale for tilling the soil is to keep it aerobic, thereby preserving nitrate fertilizer in the soil.
NO3 ----------------> NO2 ----------------> N2 denitrification

The overall reactions of denitrification shown above proceed through the formation of nitrous oxide (N2O). A recent article by Wunsch an Zumft in Journal of Bacteriology, vol. 187 (2005), sheds new light on the process of denitrification. N2O is a bacterial metabolite in the REVERSAL of Nitrogen fixation. The anthropogenic atmospheric increase of N2O is a cause for concern, as noted above (as a greenhouse gas, N2O has 300 times the heat absorbing capacity as CO2). Denitrifying bacteria respire using N2O as an electron acceptor yielding N2 and the thereby provide a sink for N2O. This article provides new insight into this process by identifying a membrane-bound protein in denitrifying bacteria called NosR, that is necessary for the expression of N2O reductase from the nosZ gene. The NosR protein has redox centers positioned on opposite sides of the cytoplasmic membrane, which allows it to sustain whole-cell N2O respiration by acting on N2O reductase.
Nitrification is a form of lithotrophic metabolism that is chemically the opposite of denitrification. Nitrifying bacteria such as Nitrosomonas utilize NH3 as an energy source, oxidizing it to NO2, while Nitrobacter will oxidize NO2 to NO3. Nitrifying bacteria generally occur in aquatic environments and their significance in soil fertility and the global nitrogen cycle is not well understood.
The Overall process of Nitrification
NH3 ----------------> NO2 (Nitrosomonas)
NO2 ----------------> NO3 (Nitrobacter)
A final important aspect of the nitrogen cycle that involves procaryotes, though not exclusively, is decomposition of nitrogen-containing compounds. Most organic nitrogen (in protein, for example) yields ammonia (NH3) during the process of deamination. Fungi are involved in decomposition, as well.
Plants, animals and protista, as well as the procaryotes, complete the nitrogen cycle during the uptake of the element for their own nutrition. Nitrogen assimilation is usually in the form of nitrate, an amino group, or ammonia.
 

Medi 1

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and whats this..........proving your a dik...so. its goof info. whats wrong with that. did you know all this already.
i thought it was obvious a copy n paste...so. is it wrong. your avvy suits the attitude.
 

doc111

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what is this ? Proving you can copy and paste ?
Why do you gotta be like that? This is what this site is all about. Information sharing. If you don't like the information or disagree with it then speak your mind but don't be rude just because you can.:evil:
 

gobbly

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what is this ? Proving you can copy and paste ?
Ummm, this is good info to have... In fact, most people I meet in hobbies that rely extensively on nitrogen cycles have no idea how they work. Especially in areas like organic farming, this is paramount. For instance, in aerobic nitrification toxic ammonia is converted to less toxic nitrites, and subsequently soluble nitrogen in the form of nitrates. This leads down many paths, such as the need to allow bacteria cultures to grow in response to toxins, ensuring that there is no excess which could damage a root system. It also lays the foundation for ensuring that all soil in a container is well oxygenated to continue a proper nitrate conversion.

Why you'd fault someone for posting some of their research here (which happens to be very thorough and relevant) is beyond me.
 

Medi 1

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ill apologize for my dikish part. but its not that easy either to wade through all the old or outdated or forum bullshit from noobs that think they understand it. lots of bad wrong info out there. some of my info ive had to even pay for it from pay per use science sites. or from one of my partners Dr hornby and its his research so may be a copy n paste. but we work together...so is his stuff no good either....????????????

anyways thx to the others for getting it and adding to the info. thats is all its about...sharing real info copy/pasted or not.was it wrong...or do you even know
 

<Grasshopper>

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I feel like Im a little ahead of the game now....as I understand all this because reef aquariums work the same way with their deep sand bed...Nitrite to nitrate then expelled from the sand as gas bubbles. I had no idea it was the same in soil though.

Thanks for the useful post.

Hopper
 

anomolies

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Only if you claim it's YOUR work. I agree though. You should definitely cite your references.:weed:
You need to cite it regardless because people will think you're trying to pass it off as your own, and as time goes on the originator gets lost because something gets quoted a million times and no credit is given.
 

Cransi

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You need to cite it regardless because people will assume you're trying to pass it off as your own, and as time goes on the originator gets lost because something gets quoted a million times and no credit is given.
There fixed it for ya!:bigjoint:
 

Medi 1

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and i just looked at a post of his and its also a copy n paste...hypocrite.dont preach shit you dont do yourself
 

doc111

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You need to cite it regardless because people will think you're trying to pass it off as your own, and as time goes on the originator gets lost because something gets quoted a million times and no credit is given.
That's what I said. Plagiarism is actually taking somebody elses work and claiming it as your own. He's not doing this in this specific case. A person should always cite their references when copy and pasting information but an example of plagiarism would be copy and pasting this information and then claiming it to be your own. Anyway, appreciate the info and screw the haters!:evil:
 

anomolies

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and i just looked at a post of his and its also a copy n paste...hypocrite.dont preach shit you dont do yourself
where? i always put everything in quotations. Lying mtherfker.

That's what I said. Plagiarism is actually taking somebody elses work and claiming it as your own. He's not doing this in this specific case. A person should always cite their references when copy and pasting information but an example of plagiarism would be copy and pasting this information and then claiming it to be your own. Anyway, appreciate the info and screw the haters!:evil:
Did you not go to highschool or college? You can't just put something in an essay and not cite it, even if you're not specifically claiming it as your own. And don't say this is different than an essay, it's the same concept.
 

Medi 1

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ya i skipped skool. went right to working for a major nute company...lol...and ya this isnt skool son...you still failing there to...lol..whatever.
 

Gr8Gr33nz

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last time i checked only applied to school work as for getting grades not a forum. this is scientific info not someone tryin to profit off it you dumbass. dipshits like this make me wanna punch through my screen and reachout and snatch your fuckin eye out. lol. did he ever claim it was his info? NO. look up the definition of plagiarism so you can get a better understanding before your mouth shoots off.


here ya go moron did the hard work for ya.

The act of appropriating the literary composition of another author, or excerpts, ideas, or passages therefrom, and passing the material off as one's own creation.

KEYWORD ones own creation. no where did he say it was his info.
 

Medi 1

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its not a big deal to me..i get alot of that from uneducated kids...usualy cause they dont have a clue what it meant or they like to hack my bad typing skills.
funny how the bashing gets more attention than help does around here
 

doc111

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where? i always put everything in quotations. Lying mtherfker.

Did you not go to highschool or college? You can't just put something in an essay and not cite it, even if you're not specifically claiming it as your own. And don't say this is different than an essay, it's the same concept.
OMFG! You did not just compare highschool/college to RIU? LMFAO!!!!!! Let me break it down for ya. There has to be some sort of gain involved. In school, plagiarism would be you putting YOUR NAME to someone elses work that you ripped off and turned it in for your homework or a term paper. In the real world if I ripped off an article or book and put my name to it that would be plagiarism as well because I am gaining financially and not creditting the real author. Now here in the interwebs, there really is nothing to be gained unless you put your name to something claiming it to be yours in order to gain financially. I looked up the definiton of plagiarism and there is no mention of "gain" which I think is an important factor in plagiarism.:joint:

At any rate, I think the internet brings up some interesting gray areas with plagiarism. You are correct in saying that one should always cite references or at the very least italicize or use quotations but this isn't high school and the bottom line is plagiarism is defined as:
pla·gia·rism

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&#8211;noun

1.the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.

2.something used and represented in this manner

Here is a link to the site which I copy and pasted this definition from.;-)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarism

Oh and BTW, I have a masters degree.:-P
 

Medi 1

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hell if i could edit my post id add copied form a pay per use site. if someone here has capabilities to edit this go ahead to save the drama.

maybe if the same effort was out into learning this instead of bashing some might become a better grower...oh well
 
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