There's just no money coming in': Cannabis sector bracing for wave of insolvencies in 2020

cannadan said:

I believe it was some outdoor producer from a legal state....

as for those greenhouse plants, I would think 50 percent of the bud sites will occur in the bottom portion of those plants and of those, only 15 percent will gain enough usable light ,due to their location on the periphery of the aisles and exterior rows , so they are not completely larfy below the canopy
growth.

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you are right about nothing will do well on the lowers..unless they seriously defoliate

take the lowers out and give the workers something to do = giant spears

done right that grow could SHOULD be awesome..

but i do continue to harp on :

then it appears they must irradiate

cannabis is folk medicine..people have smokedeaten//rubbed it on their feet etc for 1000's of years

yes livng plants will contain bacteria..but imho irradiation may ruin it

the LP's cannot all be that lousy growers..technically theyshould have everything going for them

it must be something else that makes it not as good as it could be..ie "cold pasturization"

i have not been to an LP grow room..but many flowering room shots show a good crop of cola's

something happens from here on in....in order to tet 0 coliform count

possibly many things must also be destroyed

it is folk medicine..leave it alone..or just put warning label on it..

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

you are right about nothing will do well on the lowers..unless they seriously defoliate

take the lowers out and give the workers something to do = giant spears

done right that grow could SHOULD be awesome..

but i do continue to harp on :

then it appears they must irradiate

cannabis is folk medicine..people have smokedeaten//rubbed it on their feet etc for 1000's of years

yes livng plants will contain bacteria..but imho irradiation may ruin it

the LP's cannot all be that lousy growers..technically theyshould have everything going for them

it must be something else that makes it not as good as it could be..ie "cold pasturization"

i have not been to an LP grow room..but many flowering room shots show a good crop of cola's

something happens from here on in....in order to tet 0 coliform count

possibly many things must also be destroyed

it is folk medicine..leave it alone..or just put warning label on it..

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I can almost guarantee that the main problems with the quality of LP weed is...

1. their genetic selection process (selecting for yield before effects, and the hardiness of the culiltivar for their environments and grow styles. )

2. Using a barrage of pesticides, fungicides, etc... to combat their lack of selection which would avoid most of these pitfalls.

3. Using a bland, generic, nutrient formula filled with PGRs to boost output.

4. The drying and curing process.

Other than those factors, they have the equipment, the knowledge and the ability to push flame. It's a conscious choice to put out bland at best poop.

BurtMaklin said:

I can almost guarantee that the main problems with the quality of LP weed is...

1. their genetic selection process (selecting for yield before effects, and the hardiness of the culiltivar for their environments and grow styles. )

2. Using a barrage of pesticides, fungicides, etc... to combat their lack of selection which would avoid most of these pitfalls.

3. Using a bland, generic, nutrient formula filled with PGRs to boost output.

4. The drying and curing process.

Other than those factors, they have the equipment, the knowledge and the ability to push flame. It's a conscious choice to put out bland at best poop.

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5. Master Growers named Chad who have never smoked weed!

TheRealDman said:

5. Master Growers named Chad who have never smoked weed!

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With what they produce ... that makes complete sense lol

This just in....FLASH....later in the year they're having a huge sale...stay tuned

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

you are right about nothing will do well on the lowers..unless they seriously defoliate

take the lowers out and give the workers something to do = giant spears

done right that grow could SHOULD be awesome..

but i do continue to harp on :

then it appears they must irradiate

cannabis is folk medicine..people have smokedeaten//rubbed it on their feet etc for 1000's of years

yes livng plants will contain bacteria..but imho irradiation may ruin it

the LP's cannot all be that lousy growers..technically theyshould have everything going for them

it must be something else that makes it not as good as it could be..ie "cold pasturization"

i have not been to an LP grow room..but many flowering room shots show a good crop of cola's

something happens from here on in....in order to tet 0 coliform count

possibly many things must also be destroyed

it is folk medicine..leave it alone..or just put warning label on it..

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I will agree they have every advantage going and afforded to them...and they certainly all don't do a bad job,
but in a market that we knew would be the utmost of super competitive,,,they all really needed to focus 80 percent of the total effort on quality
to have any hope in being some of the cream that rises to the top.
irradiation will be used to try and level the playing field that separates the real growers from the commercial hacks...
but most cannabis consumers can tell the diff...
You probably will not see any of the commercial lp's ...who would be willing to invest the time in a 20 week plus sativa or other less commercially viable strains,in order to do a high quality job of it, which is really unfortunate because that is what is needed.
A niche market of heirloom strains, done correctly,,,, should be just the kind of lp ...that has a chance of establishing a client base and selling out of
of each crop in its entirety...
I could even see a pre order system working for those connoisseur types,who know what they would be getting.
but again we are talking fairly large prices required to pull this off.

I could see people PAYING for someone to grow fire

anything else can be done by anyone and at home specially.

gb123 said:

I could see people PAYING for someone to grow fire

anything else can be done by anyone and at home specially.

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No one that I know would buy any descent quantity of legal weed if they are paying $200+ per OZ no matter how good it is. I know a lot of people who smoke 1/2-1oz per week. They might pay $160 max/oz but with weed being $100-140/oz for a few years now no fucking way will they pay the legal price.

AquaTerra said:

No one that I know would buy any descent quantity of legal weed if they are paying $200+ per OZ no matter how good it is. I know a lot of people who smoke 1/2-1oz per week. They might pay $160 max/oz but with weed being $100-140/oz for a few years now no fucking way will they pay the legal price.

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and neither would anyone I know maybe 50 an oz of AAAA when and IF yer find yerself all out

i still think irradiation/cold pasturization will ruin anything..and thats HC's deal

so real AAAA weed becomes a personal grow room choice only.... otherwise is a unicorn, you have to be willing to put in the time
to source fire strains and grow them out to reality....certain long running strains would never pass QC without being pasteurized ,would be my guess.