This Is Scary!

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
If you'd not extend your "battlefield" over here, that'd be great thanks, this doesn't just undermine your freedom, it's undermines EVERYONE'S freedom.

Please and thank you. ;)
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Not Scary at all. This says if you are an American Citizen Hiding out anywhere in the World We can AND will Try to arrest or Kill you if you plot to destroy the USA
If you are in the USA You are going to get arrested
Now I remember Paulbots saying how the Military is a big contributor to Ron Paul
But after his Comments about Al awalki and How we shouldnt of Blown him Up becuase he Was A US citizen
I can Gaurantee you now Soldiers at Ft Hood in Texas Think Ron Paul is a piece of shit
You can't guarantee anything except your ability to get things wrong. No person should be judge, jury, and executioner. Even a piece of shit like you deserves a trial.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Do you really believe all that "terrorists want to kill us cos we're free" bullshit man? Terrorists wanna kill you cos you keep blowing up their desert homes, pretty simple.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
The good part is at the end about what should of really been done with Bin Laden
Shocked you side with bigot and "racist," but not Farrakhan. Pat Condell is just a bitter atheist who can't get over his Jesus rape as a child. So he makes boring videos on youtube how he wishes he could wipe out all christians and arabs who dress like Mohammad commanded. He has poor self worth issues but makes tons of money being Richard Dawkins bottom. I personally feel sorry for him and wouldn't stoop to his level, no matter how much I was paid.
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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So basicaly if youre a dissenter of the government they will have interest in taking you out or detaining you,because they want to go unopposed by anyone and seek iron clad authoriy over all people.They fear the people that much.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Dissent all you want. Say the goverment blows.
You cross the line when you plan attacks and recruit others to do the same
Is dissent not sometimes a pre-cursor to action and US citizens can be detained indefinitely for mere suspicion if this new bill makes it through as is right? So if one dissents it is possible then that he may act and therefore he can be detained.
 

sso

Well-Known Member
nce 9/11, Senator Lindsey Graham has said repeatedly that we must fight the terrorists “over there” so we don’t have to fight them “over here.” But this week, Graham threw that all out the window. Apparently, we are now at war everywhere. Forever.

Commenting on the controversial Section 1031 of the National Defense Authorization Act — which many contend gives the federal government new powers to arrest American citizens without charge — Graham made clear this week that “1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland.”

The entire world is now a “battlefield”? “Including the homeland”?

There have been serious constitutional questions raised recently concerning whether our federal government should be able to arrest or assassinate American citizens overseas without charge or trial. This new and largely uncharted legal territory has been troublesome. But arresting or assassinating American citizens here in the United States without trial? Rounding up and holding American citizens indefinitely without charge? What country is this?

This is a new and unprecedented government power that should scare the living hell out of every last American. Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) rightly called it “one of the most anti-liberty pieces of legislation of our lifetime.” Jim Gilmore, former Virginia governor and chairman of the Congressional Panel on Terrorism, roundly denounced it: “The provisions of this bill undermine the basic safeguards that we enjoy as Americans. It is dangerous, and should not be supported by anyone: Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, citizen or non-citizen.”

Added Gilmore: “This ill-considered bill is one of those dangers to our liberties by an unwise extension of military power in the homeland contrary to all law, precedent and history.”

As Amash and Gilmore note — and Graham ignores — the basic constitutional principle of protecting individual liberties through due process is not some negotiable piece of historical trivia. It is the bedrock of the most rudimentary American and Western law dating all the way back to the Magna Carta. Accepting this legislation blindly — as the majority of both parties seem entirely comfortable with — is to surrender the most basic of American liberties. Said Sen. Rand Paul, who fought hard and mostly alone to strip the National Defense Authorization Act of this terrifying provision: “Should we err today and remove some of the most important checks on state power in the name of fighting terrorism, well, then the terrorists have won.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/02/the-terrorists-have-won/#ixzz1fUYpNoB7



wow, the united states government is obviously insanely afraid of everyone and particularily its own people.

well, they are sure to take a fall, they are too insane to live, the only question is how many will they manage to take with them to hell.
 

NoDrama

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U.S. officials allege that Al-Awlaki spoke with and preached to a number of al-Qaeda members and affiliates, including three of the 9/11 hijackers,[18] alleged Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan,[19][20] and alleged "Christmas Day bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab;[21][22][23] he was also allegedly involved in planning the latter's attack. The Yemeni government began trying him in absentia in November 2010, for plotting to kill foreigners and being a member of al-Qaeda, and a Yemenite judge ordered that he be captured "dead or alive".[24][25]


You see how this works? Define alleged if you are able.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
the use of the word alleged is for people who haven't been convicted at trial.

Nidal Malik Hasans trial will start in March 2012. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty. Only after the court finds you guilty and sentences you for a crime, then you are guilty. Until then it's "alleged". Otherwise it's called defamation of character.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
the use of the word alleged is for people who haven't been convicted at trial.

Nidal Malik Hasans trial will start in March 2012. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty. Only after the court finds you guilty and sentences you for a crime, then you are guilty. Until then it's "alleged". Otherwise it's called defamation of character.
So, in other words, you are guilty if you don't go to court and prove your innocence? Therefore if i say you are an alleged child pornographer, that automatically makes you one until you go to court and prove you are not? kinda hard to prove a negative isn't it?


Dictionary said:
al·leged/əˈlejd/

Adjective : (of an incident or a person) Said, without proof, to have taken place or to have a specified illegal or undesirable quality.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Well then We should of Just Let Bin laden Alone until we had taken him to Trial

Do you see how Idiotic you RP supporters are?
See how you are Duke? ND posted a legitimate question that every American citizen SHOULD be posing. And you go to switching the topic (Bin Laden was taken out after Congressional authorization.) and name calling.

Typical.
 
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