This type of shit pisses me off!

Miracle Smoke

Miracle Smoke

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n response to Dan Linn, the Executive Director Illinois Chapter National Organization to Reform Marijuana Laws (Illinois NORML) and his small statement why it's time to legalize and tax marijuana, let me just say, maybe you are high. It's always about the money for some of you, but what about those of us who are parents, and the most important "thing" to us is our children?
Legalize marijuana so it can be easier for the adults who are users and or dealers, who are already deciding to break the law, to sell or just pass it on to our kids or in some cases their own? This seems inevitable to me.
Please take a look at the big picture. There will be many more broken laws with legalized marijuana, therefore more arrests, prosecutions and imprisonment at the cost of putting children in the middle. How does that benefit anyone?
Maybe Mr. Linn is not a parent. Maybe he, too, just sees dollar signs.
Then what should be legalized next, cocaine? Maybe you should re-think your ideas of how the state of Illinois could collect more tax money for the budget.
Christina Yanecek
Round Lake Beach

Honestly i can see the children, but #1
it's the parents responsibility (stop using the escape goat).

#2 it always leads to other drugs can you prove that?
It's the persons decision to do the substance and
have nothing to blame but them selves.

#3 How would legalization lead to more arrests?
Sure there will be sum adult that will buy the green
for the kids but nonetheless with all the parents
that complain about marijuana use, kids would have a
harder time obtaining the substance.

#4 All drugs should be legalized!
totse.com | American Drug Policy: What's the Real Problem?

Legalize!

:joint:
 
biggflintmi

biggflintmi

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I used to sit at the store and ask peole to buy me cigs. Thats how i smoked before i was 18. That and stealing from my parents. Legal or not if a kid wants to get some weed hes gonna get it. People just play the kid card because they know everyone will be sympathetic.
 
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IntheTuk

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Its easier for most kid to get right now than alcohol. If it was in a store at least it would only be sold to adults instead of some dealer just trying to make a buck.
 
VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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people only play the kid card because they are underinformed. There was an LTE published when they were discussing MMJ in Minnesota that pointed out, what they are saying could happen already is. The fact remains, MJ is less harmful than tobacco, alcohol, and all the other drugs out there. Legalizing it will not change that fact.
 
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rkm

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It will not be any worse than alcohol or cigarettes. Just make the legal age to buy weed 21. I think there should be an age limit, simply due to some of the kids maturity and responsibility. No matter if it is legal or illegal, the kids will get it regardless.
 
natmoon

natmoon

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I personally,whether i am mad or not is highly debatable lol,believe that they are afraid of independent thinkers which would undermine their control system and cause people to ask them to many questions that they do not want to answer.
Also marijuana makes you care more about issues of justice and also helps to make most people care more about the state of our planet,this is also not something that they want,which is why beer is legal and weed is not,after 10 pints you will not give a shit about the planet or anyone or anything else,not to mention that you will become addicted to beer and have to work all week to buy some more.
So to sum up i think they want to keep people drunk,dumber,careless and working in shit jobs and marijuana would make this much more difficult for them.
This is just my opinion though and i may be completely wrong:leaf:
 
joemomma

joemomma

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Yeah that person is way under informed, the kid card and the gateway argument are pretty lame. Kids will find a way to do what they want to do. HONEST education would go a long way to close the perceived gateway as well. When I was a young stoner I did try other stuff but it was partly because none of the crazy shit i was told that pot would do to me ever happened. so for a kid it's pretty easy to think, "hey, they lied about weed, I bet they lied about acid and speed too!"

The Society for a Drug Free America with their stupid BS commercials does more harm than good.
 
We1

We1

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kids smoke weed anyways you dumb #%#$T^$^ fuck jeez why does everyone play
the kid card? that defeats the whole purpose! Just because you have a kid doesn;t mean
this shit should be illegal!
You can't control your kids! If you could I would be more worried about stopping them from
smoking PCP, but since your on this site I will just let you know weed is easier to get than
alchohol so what does that mean to you?
 
Miracle Smoke

Miracle Smoke

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A new british study says smoking two marijuana
cigarettes are worse than smoking 20 tobacco cigarrettes.

Because it has more cancerogens,

get the fuck outta here.
 
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HotNSexyMILF

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I am a mother, and let me say, nothing is more important to me than my daughter. When the time comes and she starts to experiment with things I would much rather it be marijuana than anything else!

My mother raised me right, she understood I was going to want to try things and it was always ok, as long as I was in the house and didn't leave. If we keep shoving propaganda down out kids throats when they realize it's wrong and everyones lying to them they're less likely to listen.. lets give them the truth. Marijuana is not a harmful drug when used responsibly.
 
avlon06

avlon06

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Miracle Smoke said:
n response to Dan Linn, the Executive Director Illinois Chapter National Organization to Reform Marijuana Laws (Illinois NORML) and his small statement why it's time to legalize and tax marijuana, let me just say, maybe you are high. It's always about the money for some of you, but what about those of us who are parents, and the most important "thing" to us is our children?
Legalize marijuana so it can be easier for the adults who are users and or dealers, who are already deciding to break the law, to sell or just pass it on to our kids or in some cases their own? This seems inevitable to me.
Please take a look at the big picture. There will be many more broken laws with legalized marijuana, therefore more arrests, prosecutions and imprisonment at the cost of putting children in the middle. How does that benefit anyone?
Maybe Mr. Linn is not a parent. Maybe he, too, just sees dollar signs.
Then what should be legalized next, cocaine? Maybe you should re-think your ideas of how the state of Illinois could collect more tax money for the budget.
Christina Yanecek
Round Lake Beach

Honestly i can see the children, but #1
it's the parents responsibility (stop using the escape goat).

#2 it always leads to other drugs can you prove that?
It's the persons decision to do the substance and
have nothing to blame but them selves.

#3 How would legalization lead to more arrests?
Sure there will be sum adult that will buy the green
for the kids but nonetheless with all the parents
that complain about marijuana use, kids would have a
harder time obtaining the substance.

#4 All drugs should be legalized!
totse.com | American Drug Policy: What's the Real Problem?

Legalize!

:joint:
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cocaine is much worse that marijuana and we all know that, thats not logical thinking if your going to say if they legalize weed then there will be other drugs to follow. why would people commit more crimes if they can purchase weed over the counter or just not have to deal with major issues? it is your opinion and thats fine, we will really never know what will happen until it happens.
 
Serotonin

Serotonin

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Marijuana won't be legal until Christianity is leeched out of the American society... sad but true. (and that will never happen)
 
NoCash

NoCash

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Miracle Smoke said:
#3 How would legalization lead to more arrests?
Sure there will be sum adult that will buy the green
for the kids but nonetheless with all the parents
that complain about marijuana use, kids would have a
harder time obtaining the substance.
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Yep. Just like with alcohol. I'm 18, and it's way easier to get pot than to get alcohol. Everybody sells it because they have to - you can't just walk into a store and get it. You can walk into a store and get beer though, and that's why nobody makes moonshine in their bathtubs anymore.
 
natmoon

natmoon

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The only gateway factor is narcoticly sprayed addictive weed,and fake hash that is usually plastic,rubber,henna and animal tranqs.
Once youve become addicted to these,you then need them because of what they have been sprayed or mixed with,therfore creating a bunch of fools that think they are addicted to weed.

Chances are that 9 out of 10 people that end up this way have been using adulterated weed or hash and not the real deal.

The other factor is that when young adults go to get some weed some unscrupulous dealers offer tasters for free of cocaine or crack,pcp,etc.
So how many kids would be getting offers for free tasters of cocaine if you could buy some weed at walmart?

I have smoked weed for over 20 years,before i became a freelance musician i used to build computers,i am not debilitated by weed mentally in any way other than that i do complain and question things more than your average citizen.

I figure that the people would be much harder to control if they had half a brain,i figure this is the real reason that alcohol the brain destroyer is legal and weed is illegal.
You cant have something that makes the common masses smarter,i mean who would clean up the rich peoples garbage for a megre wage if the poor were smarter?
 
NoCash

NoCash

Active Member
natmoon said:
You cant have something that makes the common masses smarter,i mean who would clean up the rich peoples garbage for a megre wage if the poor were smarter?
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Haha so true. The rich would just set up a police state though. With cops arresting harmless potheads like criminals, and cameras on every street corner relaying live feeds to a major internet search engine that also collected and stored everyone's DNA. Kind of like if cops used Google.

Give it a couple years. :mrgreen:
 
natmoon

natmoon

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NoCash said:
Haha so true. The rich would just set up a police state though. With cops arresting harmless potheads like criminals, and cameras on every street corner relaying live feeds to a major internet search engine that also collected and stored everyone's DNA. Kind of like if cops used Google.

Give it a couple years. :mrgreen:
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So i guess what we really need to tell the rich people is that we will collect more of their garbage if they let us smoke weed.
If you let us smoke pot we will happily go about cleaning your homes and removing your garbage:mrgreen:

P.S. I assume you realise and were being sarcastic about giving it a few years for the above to be true seeing as its already true:blsmoke:
 
EarthlyPassions

EarthlyPassions

Well-Known Member
Miracle Smoke said:
A new british study says smoking two marijuana
cigarettes are worse than smoking 20 tobacco cigarrettes.

Because it has more cancerogens,

get the fuck outta here.
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The bullshit they put in phamlets are crazy, and some of them are so blatantly untrue it makes my eyes cross. >_<
 
krillianred

krillianred

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well. california is making a killing on taxes taken from "clinics/clubs/dispensaries"

and from the ones that i know of that are allowed to stay open, they have a system that is tied into the register, and a portion of all profits are automatically transferred to a "tax account" where interest accumulates and then the irs collects every fiscal quarter.

hahahahah.....

sigh. turning drug dealers into tax paying businessmen. brilliant.
 
EarthlyPassions

EarthlyPassions

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krillianred said:
well. california is making a killing on taxes taken from "clinics/clubs/dispensaries"

and from the ones that i know of that are allowed to stay open, they have a system that is tied into the register, and a portion of all profits are automatically transferred to a "tax account" where interest accumulates and then the irs collects every fiscal quarter.

hahahahah.....

sigh. turning drug dealers into tax paying businessmen. brilliant.
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I always thought that it would be a natural step. Nearly all of the same skills are needed, the only real difference is legitimacy.
 
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