Tiny Issue With My Oldest Sprout

I recently germinated a bunch of bagseed, mids seeds that I got for free, to attempt a grow in a grow box I designed myself. The first grow went very bad as the ventilation system I rigged together failed and left my plants to burn to death all night. The next grow, I was dumb as hell and sprayed the plants w water during the light cycle and ripped out all of the water. The third, and present one, is going well...

I CANNOT POST PICTURES SO PLEASE, I will describe the plants issue to the smallest detail in order to get some good advice w what I got...

My sprouts are looking weird, theyre purple. Not a deep purple haze or food coloring purple, but also like tiny blotches of purple on the new growth and fan leaves. I am NOT using any nutes atm for they are only about 1 week (newest) and 3 week (oldest) I will begin using nutes at 4 weeks.

Here is my main issue - Although the sprouts are purple fogged, they are growing fine so I am not worried - it could be a phase and or a deficiency that will be corrected in a couple days. My main issue is about my oldest plant, 3-4 weeks old. This plant never turned purple like the others and looks VERY healthy - BUT the entire plant is drooping and curling up. I know the first thing your thinking is "stop watering it" , I already did - I gave it over 5 days of dry soil and there is no progress to be reported. The plant is very small, almost looks dwarfed ( Im growing using CFLs so it wont grow tall quickly, the lights are an inch from the plant ). When I take it out and examine it, the plants looks SO HEALTHY - theres no yellowing, no dead spots - but the leaves are curling. To best describe what it looks like without a picture, hold your hand infront of you and drop your wrist like a gay dude - The way your finger tips fall down and curl is exactly how the plant looks in a 360 degree look. The fan leaves touch the soil and only the newest growth is NOT drooping.

Could this be a nute deficiency? I KNOW it cant be over watering, and it cant be OVER nutes because I am not using them... Any ideas?

I am going to TRY to get a digital cam and get a pic of this, but I am not sure if I can get one.

if your soil doesn't have any food in it, and you wait 4 weeks to feed then it will most likely die and show severe signs of defs. I germ in promix which has no food added and I usually start to feed within a week of them sprouting.


" hold your hand out then drop it like a gay dude" lololol good description hahaha

If it's drooping and curling, then it's NOT VERY HEALTHY...you didn't mention medium, size of pots, lights etc.... I'd dare say overwatering or underwatering.....perhaps poor drainage in pot....poor ventilation/high temps....combination of all....

Okay the lighting used at CFL 100w + 300w bulbs, the temp stands at a solid 85 degrees. The soil is made up of one regular bag of soil, one bag of peat moss, and one bag of perilite mixxed together, it is HEAVY on the peat moss so I water from the bottom-up.

The plants ARE HEALTHY - The only problem being that the leaves are curling downwards. They are thick green and ARE NOT yellowing and ARE NOT brown spotting. The pot they are in right now is an adult sized solo cup with 5 slits in the bottoms of the cups and about 7 1/4" diameter drain holes on the very bottom.

The plants have proper drainage and have proper tempurature and proper lighting. They shouldnt be curling - but they are. The best way to explain it is the "drop your hand like a gay dude" Its looks similar to over-watering but there is NO sign of moisture stress, yellow brown spots or anything and the curls are SOFT like a regular leaf, not dry.

The way the plant is set up is it has two 100w daylight cfls on a Y connector that are sticking out of the sides for undergrowth and 1 300w CFL above it for top light and there is a mini fan blowing the heat from the bulbs away from the plant. I am not too worried about the plant "dieing" its not going to die, im not a retard and the plant is healthy - the only problem is that its drooping. I had tried watering more often, didnt work and they didnt droop MORE or LESS when I did it - nothing changed. I tried to STOP watering it - the soil is completely dry even about 4 inches into the cup (used a moisture detector to get this information) and then I left it for a couple days without water - still no change. However, the plant is growing, forming new fan leaves and nodes and continues to be a healthy plant green. I also see new growth forming between the first nodes branches (the very bottom of the plant) going up each node (as if i topped it, but i didnt).

I am not too concerned at how this is, because I know some plants react differently to certain lighting, temps etc - and it is still growing well every day - I am mainly worried that there could be a root problem - I had read a bunch of issues in the problems forum explainging how root rot can cause symptoms like this and u wont see how bad it really is until the plan takes a shit on u and dies.

Anyway my photo never sent from my phone therefor I cannot upload a pic, if you have any ideas please throw them out there. Keep in mind I had tried to water it more, and tried to not water it at all for a while - niether has worked. I am starting to lean towards the idea that it NEEDS nutes at this point in time to be able to stand tall. Im going to wait another day or so w/o watering - if there is no change I am going to water with my nute enhanced formula and see the results.

The plant in question in 3 weeks ahead of all the rest of my plants as a "test" plant. I am going to do everything to this plant BEFORE I do it to the 12 others - being this is a first time shot id rather not fuck 12 plants at the same time lol...

this is a pic of the issue my phone pulled through for me lol ps altho it LOOKS like its yellowing on the left side, its NOT, there is a bright amber clear spray bottle sitting next to it which reflected the appearance in the photo.

Hard to work out what is going on with the plant but it looks small and did i understand right you haven't added any nutes? Your soil is peat moss (of which i think there are three main varieties all with different ph and properties etc etc) soiland perlite?

People will probably say differently but my guess and i say guess in a loose way because this would be what i would do with similar looking plants and your situation might be different. Anyway the slow small stunted growth could be overwatering or low nutes. The peat moss dosen't worry me much as there are a lot of perfectly good gardening varieties that hold their pH well but it might be retaining too much water in the soil in your particular grow, my soil says it is 50percent peat products and it grows weed fine. Next the purpling on the new growth could and probably is a sign of nute deficiency, a good dose of grow/veg ferts would prove this in a matter of days too. I get yellowing of the leaves both interveinal and on the leaf edges with my nute deficient small plants as well as the purpling. One last thing is that when the plant gets deficient in nutes it slows down and dosen't absorb a lot of water like a healthy plant dose (basically its rate of transpiration slow down) and so the soil stays wet for longer, overwatering sets in and before you know it there is nothing that seems to help, those big ridges in the plant leaves are also like mine when they need nutes. A lot of these signs could be other things but i have seen this before in my veg room and since my soil company seems to be putting less and less nutes in the soils i buy i am experiencing it now with a few seedlings/small plants. When i fertilize a lot of the purple in the leaf stems and the stalk of the plant dissaperar reasonably quickly but the fist thing that happens and it takes my plant about 2 days for the leaves to stand up and stop drooping after a dose of ferts.

I honestly just think they need a dose of ferts and some love, if you agree then use a low dose at first, if you have just watered then you could give it now or wait till next watering. You say your not worried about the plant so maybe it would be worth a shot. Let me know if you do and it cures it to some degree. Maybe backing the lights of and testing pH are good ideas here as well isnt 85 a bit hot for seedlings, i forget the celcius for this and only work in celcius. Thanks and sorry if my post is a bit long.

You may b right, today I decided to begin the nute cycle and withint 3 hours it looks like its recovering. I also added nutes to the younger sprouts and theyre all coneing up towards the light lolol I think I solved my problem

If your fairly sure watering isnt the cuplrit, Id say add some nutes, remember the b vitamin, and give it a week. Cant judge an adult by the seedling so much. Ive seen the strangest seedlings go crazy awesome about the 3rd week.

It is always lack of nutes for me as well, when i started with my soil i could get 4 weeks no fertilizing in a small pot, now i have to mix my flowering compost with the seedling compost just so they don't get deficient or else im fertilizing at 2 weeks of growth. It still might have other problems but the fact that it is looking perkier is a good sign. Post pics of the recovery if you can please. Thanks

Sure thing kingrow, I will post a few pics up if they send from my phone like last time ( i get really bad service on this crap phone and 90% of all photos dont go through). Let me just say I am 99% sure it was lack of nutes, I never put nutes in my soil and everything i added was nute free - I put two scoops of mirical grow nute soil in the ENTIRE batch which isnt much at ALL - the sprouts in 24 hours after getting nute water are looking healthier than ever the fan leaves are growing out NICELY etc etc...

Pics coming soon hopefully!

This would be the reaction of giving a nute starved plant nutes. Carefull at this point that you don't overfertilize her. There could still be other problems but if the plant is looking good now i think you have cracked it, looking forward to the pics, i just upload pics of my computer and can transfer them off a my phone to the computer via its usb cable. Looking forward to the pics.

Yeah thing is I have a shitty blackberry curve, the FIRST one not the debugged one that they are selling now. The photos dont send and the usb cable doesnt work - I have another 2 months before I can renew my contract so.... lol iphone it is...

Hows the plant, is it growing faster now, any repeat of the problems or is it still ok??

Well, the plant hasnt shown MUCH yet. However, it is looking promising. The new leaf growth has begun to shoot for the light and the older growth eh... it kinda straightened out. I am not sure yet still its only been a couple of days. I was told to give it a solid 7-9 days to show siginifigant changes.

Thank you for following up PS have you grown before? If so any tips for a newbie?

I just had an intresting thread which i started about some small plants with problems, looking like it is turning out to be lime/calcium problem. Finding my soil is very deficient. I will post the link here as i think it may be a futher consideration for your plant and it may need a cal/mag dose but you will have to decide that for yourself, seems likely that you may have similar problems with your soil so this may be helpfull. I am just getting to grips with so you will have to work it out for yourself but this thread should provide valuable info, someone posts a youtube video as well which is very informative. You just got to mix some garden lime in with your soil for the next grow apperantly and should help you out if you experience the same problems as me and others. Link-

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/432293-seedling-problem.html

I feel that giving the plant nutes has been helpful as it is obviously getting some of what it needs and showing you good new growth but here is where i get out of my depth and would refer you to sparkafire for any futher problems as he is a lot more experienced than me. Anyway good luck dude, i am going back to my learning stage again and will act like a noob till i get my plants sorted. Yes i have grown for a few years now and it has been the most rewarding problems i ever had. Sometimes it takes a few grows to work through everything though. Peace