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sirsmokesallot · May 2, 2010

hello i am new to this site and am about to begin what i hope to be a good invesment. i have just bought the best of rev grow special and figure it sounds like a woderful way of growing. anyways my question is i have started a soil mix for my beans and am curious to know if i have a safe mix. so far i have peat moss black earth mushroom compost green sand worm compost and lime. unfortunatly i have no soil ph probe or liquid tester i also wanted to know if this mix would contain micro organisims to balance the ph? i also have other nutrients should i add anything else?

alexonfire · May 2, 2010

That looks like a solid soil mix. If you are unsure of ph of your tap just use bottled water for the beginning and it should be fine.

sirsmokesallot · May 2, 2010

i have access to a spring it runs into a beaver dam i can get the water before or after the dam which would be more healthy?

Wetdog · May 3, 2010

sirsmokesallot said:
i have access to a spring it runs into a beaver dam i can get the water before or after the dam which would be more healthy?

Before. LOL Always drink upstream of the herd.

For the micros, go the Fungi Perfecti www.fungi.com

I use MycoGrow Soluble. Will cost you a whopping $8 delivered for enough mycos and BB to treat 150-250 plants (12 gallons of solution).

Or, you could spend $30-$100 for the same stuff at a hydro shop, or from one of the 'MJ' nute company's.

Don't get ripped off paying for pretty labels and marketing hype. Fungi Perfecti has been around since before the internet and way before any of these MJ nute lines. Many of them buy from places like FP and just re package the spores, then jack the price up 10x.

Wet

cazador · May 3, 2010

Wetdog said:
Before. LOL Always drink upstream of the herd.

For the micros, go the Fungi Perfecti www.fungi.com

I use MycoGrow Soluble. Will cost you a whopping $8 delivered for enough mycos and BB to treat 150-250 plants (12 gallons of solution).

Or, you could spend $30-$100 for the same stuff at a hydro shop, or from one of the 'MJ' nute company's.

Don't get ripped off paying for pretty labels and marketing hype. Fungi Perfecti has been around since before the internet and way before any of these MJ nute lines. Many of them buy from places like FP and just re package the spores, then jack the price up 10x.

Wet

Rep + for the microbe info.

MycoGrow™ Soluble
MycoGrow™ Soluble is similar to Plant Success™ Tabs but is more concentrated, containing more spores and more species, plus other beneficial organisms. Consisting of powdered spore mass rather than tablets, MycoGrow™ Soluble is great for adding to rooting media or commercial potting soils. Sold in one pound and one ounce increments. An ounce is sufficient to treat 125–250 plants covering approximately 250 square feet.
One ounce HMSO1O $5.95
One pound HMSO1P $79.95
Note: this product cannot be shipped to Hawaii.

Contains concentrated spore mass of the following:
Endomycorrhizal fungiGlomus intraradices, Glomus mosseae, Glomus aggregatum, Glomus clarum, Glomus deserticola, Glomus etunicatum, Gigaspora margarita, Gigaspora brasilianum, Gigaspora monosporum
Ectomycorrhizal fungiRhizopogon villosullus, Rhizopogon luteolus, Rhizopogon amylopogon, Rhizopogon fulvigleba, Pisolithus tinctorius, Laccaria bicolor, Laccaria laccata, Scleroderma cepa, Scleroderma citrinum, Suillus granulatas, Suillus punctatapies
TrichodermaTrichoderma harzianum, Trichoderma konigii

Beneficial BacteriaBacillus subtillus, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus azotoformans, Bacillus megaterium, Bacillus coagulans, Bacillus pumlis, Bacillus thuringiensis, Bacillus stearothermiphilis, Paenibacillus polymyxa, Paenibacillus durum, Paenibacillus florescence, Paenibacillus gordonae, Azotobacter polymyxa, Azotobacter chroococcum, Sacchromyces cervisiae, Streptomyces griseues, Streptomyces lydicus, Pseudomonas aureofaceans, Deinococcus erythromyxa

I don't know the count of the stuff inside it might be you get what you pay for. I payed $36? for 4oz of Great White so it's not that much more. $6*4= $24 vs the $36 from my local store.

Back of Great White bottle:

Wetdog · May 3, 2010

LOL

Nothing like putting everything into 1 inexpensive package is there?

I like the one (GH, IIRC), that splits the stuff into Mycos and BB, then charges ~$40 for each. :roll:

$80 or $5.95? ..... Let me think about that. :confused:

Wet

Wetdog · May 3, 2010

Look at both of the list of spores/bacteria, they look to be identical.

I would bet that the Great White is repackaged MycoGrow or similar. Fungi Perfecti has been around since the mid '80's, not a newcomer at all.

I doubt that very few if any of these nute lines actually grow their own Myco's or BB's, but buy in bulk and repackage.

$36/4oz isn't too bad. Not great, but a long shot from the $80 for the M&B deal.

Wet

cazador · May 3, 2010

I agree. Looks like the MycoGrow™ Soluble might have a bit more variety? And definitely a good price. Good info thanks again.
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mrFancyPlants · May 11, 2010

I just want to second the recommendation for the Mycogrow product. The simple fact that Great White contains vitamin B1 makes me think it is a big scam. B vitamins have been shown to have absolutely no effect on plant growth.

I had been wanting to try Mycogrow for a while but I never got around to it, figuring my organic soil and additives had enough myco already. I finally got around to it and noticed within a week that my persistent powdery mildew issues just disappeared.

$8 is cheap, and Paul Staments is a mushroom god. Its a shame more hydro stores aren't carrying his product directly.

Joedank · Nov 30, 2014

Good info here thanks to wet

greasemonkeymann · Dec 1, 2014

sirsmokesallot said:
i have access to a spring it runs into a beaver dam i can get the water before or after the dam which would be more healthy?

Your plants aren't going to get giardhia or any other microorganism issues, either is fine.
Get your water from wherever you see the healthiest shores, if the shores are nice and lush the water is going to be fine. I have never ever seen anybody having any problems from using reservoir/lake/pond water. Nor have I ever heard of anyone having issues with it.
what you DON"T want is farm run-off, that the stuff that'll screw everything up

greasemonkeymann · Dec 1, 2014

Wetdog said:
Look at both of the list of spores/bacteria, they look to be identical.

I would bet that the Great White is repackaged MycoGrow or similar. Fungi Perfecti has been around since the mid '80's, not a newcomer at all.

I doubt that very few if any of these nute lines actually grow their own Myco's or BB's, but buy in bulk and repackage.

$36/4oz isn't too bad. Not great, but a long shot from the $80 for the M&B deal.

Wet

I really like the mykos from xtreme gardening, its the correct specie(s) of mychorrizhae and its granulated, good deal.

vitamin_green_inc · Dec 1, 2014

Hey Wetdog, how/ do you apply it/how much? I'm guessing when you first mix the soil? If it adds the much to the nutrient profile, ~6 is awesome. Thanks

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