To spray or not to spray? (leaves)

bmeat said:

it is a theory but it makes sense. i also rember reading about it in a book. if you feed to early and out frequently with foliar, it will weaken the roots

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Everything you think you know about cultivating is wrong. You need to forget everything you think is fact and start to listen to those who have actually done it.

Not to rip bmeat, but I see your quotes on a lot of people's pages lol

The short version. I'm lazy. I've never grown a plant and thought, man if only I'd foliar fed this plant it would be so much better. I don't do it.

bmeat said:

it is a theory but it makes sense. i also rember reading about it in a book. if you feed to early and out frequently with foliar, it will weaken the roots

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Whatever Beat yer Meat. It apparently "makes sense" to you so it must be true, and you also "rember" reading about it in "a book". I have 30 years experience under my belt growing this plant and can tell you foliar feeding works fine. It's not going to weaken the root structure.

No need to be insulting.

AimAim said:

Whatever Beat yer Meat. It apparently "makes sense" to you so it must be true, and you also "rember" reading about it in "a book". I have 30 years experience under my belt growing this plant and can tell you foliar feeding works fine. It's not going to weaken the root structure.

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Outdoor plants must have terrible root structure according to his logic. Considering it rains. I bet bmeat thinks cannabis was an engineered plant by the gavmnt and has never grown outside.

i already said the only thing cannabis gets in the wild is chemical rain fall. that's why i only mist when i water, but lately I've just been pouring water over plant. regardless, that's not foliar feeding, that would require mixing soluble nutes first

supchaka said:

The short version. I'm lazy. I've never grown a plant and thought, man if only I'd foliar fed this plant it would be so much better. I don't do it.

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Exactly. However on my side I've always foliar fed a few times, never had a bad reaction, but can't say it actually did anything except make me feel better, kind of like taking those one-a-day vitamins I probably don't need.

But it can't hurt your plants as a weak solution.

Yeah that's why so many people use and praise using rain water if it is available to you, Because there's nothing good for that plant in the water. Also many seasoned growers use foliar feeding and have for a long time, Ya don't know shit buddy and everyone on RIU knows.

Well I don't think capturing rainwater in the cityes are that clean... I don't think it should be used.

exactly depends on where you live.

tap water also has lots of chemicals too though

Loola said:

Well I don't think capturing rainwater in the cityes are that clean... I don't think it should be used.

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Last I checked all the plants and tree's in every city I have been too or lived in looked like they were doing just fine. There's probably an average of more chemicals and mineral salts in city or town water from a well or treatment plant. In my opinion and in my gardening of other fruits and veggie's indoor or outdoor, nothing beats rainwater. Also consider all plants grow outside naturally and they also are watered by rain in most occasions. I understand our atmosphere is not clean but still strongly disagree.

lol some people's tap water the Chemicals, heavy metals, and mineral salts are actually toxic to plants. Never heard of rainwater being toxic to plants (Acid rain is not something that happens readily or regularly anywhere).

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This dude foliar feeds and he said the results were incredible. Definitely gonna make a nice compost tea and see how it changes things this round. Use a tbsp of unsulphured molasses as your surfuctant, not soap.

Relaxed said:

spraying plants is only for cloning and if you have bug issues in flower and no other choice. Otherwise put it down and find something else to do with your time. These plants really want you to leave them alone. Stop fucking with em and they will reward you. you are just trying some stupid reason to play with em to make em grow more bud when you need to step away and go do something else.

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Its only foliar feeding them.. Why are you always crying about something? change your screen name from relaxed to crybabybitch and stfu already...

well it raises the humidity a lot..do you need that or not? it really depends on the situation. outside, they do get cycles of dew, but the sun is a lot more powerful and youre not confined.

im not gonna lie a brew sprayed on the leaves once a month might make a difference though

jaubry777 said:

Use a tbsp of unsulphured molasses as your surfuctant, not soap.

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Ok first of all molasses would not be a surfactant (wetting agent), it would be a "Sticker". A surfactant breaks the surface tension of water so it does not bead up and run off, a sticker helps whatever you apply to the foliage stick to the foliage. Don't believe me google spreader sticker and read about it in more detail. You can read all night if you wish.

I've used both surfactants and spreader stickers for years in ag type settings, many many gallons. They can be useful when applying foliar ferts, herbicides, fungicides, insecticides etc.

Here is a spreader-sticker

http://www.amazon.com/Bonide-097-Turbo-Spreader-Sticker/dp/B000PKTPP6/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1360300439&sr=1-1&keywords=spreader+sticker

And here is a surfactant

http://www.amazon.com/Nonionic-Surfactant-90-Gallon-Concentrate/dp/B0034078TY/ref=sr_1_5?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1360300572&sr=1-5&keywords=surfactant

A good surfactant is a clear dish soap like Dawn, use 2 drops per quart. You really don't need a sticker on indoor grows, once it dries there no rain to wash it off. And before you freak out, no a couple drops of dish soap in a quart sprayer ain't gonna hurt your delicate little snowflake of a pot plant

Second molasses would be a horrible thing to put in a foliar spray as a sticker. Unless you want some mildew, mold, fungus or insects on your plants... Then I'd recommend spraying them with sugar.

molasses is a sugar, thats why its good for soil. its sugar, simple carbs for the fungus and bacteria to feed on and if theyre stronger, they turn the soil into food quicker

it says i can spray fish emulison..but im not going through all that work. thats just nasty too

I have heard of kelp as a good foliar spray like someone a couple pages back did, also canna makes their bio boost which is used as a foliar in the beginning of flowering, can prob do a soil drench but hear most of foliar *I do not use this or endorse this just saying its out there*. I have only tried foliar feeding with tap water, have not had a prob and they seem to like it, no dish soap either, shocker I know lol. Oh and HG makes their magic green foliar feed which I have good things about as well, but do not think its organic if that is your thing.
EDIT: Pretty sure the spraying at night with hids is so you do not shatter your bulbs with a drop of moisture, just my thoughts though, I use LEDs.

cobra28widow said:

Its only foliar feeding them.. Why are you always crying about something? change your screen name from relaxed to crybabybitch and stfu already...

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I am not lowering myself to your standards...lol. I see your not happy a lot on site.