To top or not to top....? ??

Hedgehunter

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Hi all, got some girls about 4 weeks from seed, looking to grow 10 in a 5x5 room....I have a 8ft celing with an 600watt HPS...and like most growers,Im after yield! growing big bud and lemon skunk and Looking for advice on wether to TOP, FIM or leave alone as i have the height...:confused:

Thanks!:weed:
 

potpimp

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Got pix? I'm going to top mine and probably do FIM too. I'll have up to 10 plants in a 2x4 area but I may keep a couple of moms in another place.
 

Nimbliez

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Topping induces stress, cutting out the little growth tips sets the plant behind. IMHO, you'd be better off LST'ing (low stress training). It is where you select the tops and branches that are growing ahead of the rest. Using a pinching maneuver, at the point you want the plant to be and squeeze the stalk, just enough that you feel it give between your fingers. Dont squeeze too hard. Then bend the branch or stalk, or stem over. If by chance you break the branch, just tape it with black electrical tape, just enough to hold the branch together, it WILL heal. You can do this many times keeping all the really fast growing tops and branches from getting ahead of most everything else. And nothing stops growing from cutting out the growth tips. There are a few videos on youtube about LST'ing. Bounce over and check em out.

Nim
 

Iquios

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If you're going for yield, do a SOG.Top the mothers alot so you have many branches to take clones from.
 

frmrboi

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Hi all, got some girls about 4 weeks from seed, looking to grow 10 in a 5x5 room....I have a 8ft celing with an 600watt HPS...and like most growers,Im after yield! growing big bud and lemon skunk and Looking for advice on wether to TOP, FIM or leave alone as i have the height...:confused:

Thanks!:weed:
Top now veg another two weeks then start flowering.
 

Hedgehunter

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i do have pics but arnt going to bother with them in this thread,just looking for advice? they all look healthy ish...and im will be looking to veg for another 14days....will post a journal on sat, so making the best use of this room(height) will to leave them ? i think i may top 2 just to compare ?
 

B3ANFLICKER

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Hi all, got some girls about 4 weeks from seed, looking to grow 10 in a 5x5 room....I have a 8ft celing with an 600watt HPS...and like most growers,Im after yield! growing big bud and lemon skunk and Looking for advice on wether to TOP, FIM or leave alone as i have the height...:confused:

Thanks!:weed:


wot id do is experiment,take a couple n do different methods so u can see the results yourself
 

Hedgehunter

Well-Known Member
Topping induces stress, cutting out the little growth tips sets the plant behind. IMHO, you'd be better off LST'ing (low stress training). It is where you select the tops and branches that are growing ahead of the rest. Using a pinching maneuver, at the point you want the plant to be and squeeze the stalk, just enough that you feel it give between your fingers. Dont squeeze too hard. Then bend the branch or stalk, or stem over. If by chance you break the branch, just tape it with black electrical tape, just enough to hold the branch together, it WILL heal. You can do this many times keeping all the really fast growing tops and branches from getting ahead of most everything else. And nothing stops growing from cutting out the growth tips. There are a few videos on youtube about LST'ing. Bounce over and check em out.

Nim
very interesting, i have read a little about this, looks tough for a newbee ?
so this method compairs yield size with topping,fiming but is a little quicker ?

I also though SOG was for growers that dont have the height ?

cheers
 

B3ANFLICKER

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very interesting, i have read a little about this, looks tough for a newbee ?
so this method compairs yield size with topping,fiming but is a little quicker ?

I also though SOG was for growers that dont have the height ?

cheers
its just a way to get faster results cos when u do it properly u have a result every couple week cos u constantly puttin plants in n harvestin the ones that r ready,u take rooted clones n pretty much flower them straight away,with scrog it limits their height n makes them bushier,
hope this makes sense
 

B3ANFLICKER

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very interesting, i have read a little about this, looks tough for a newbee ?
so this method compairs yield size with topping,fiming but is a little quicker ?

I also though SOG was for growers that dont have the height ?

cheers
u also need alot of space for scrog n sog,its nothin to do with height,just width
 

mrCRC420

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Well let's see...

Keeping in mind that you have a 8ft ceiling, when a plant starts to flower, it will grow 2-3X its final veg height. So when your plants are ready to flower, if they are less than 2.5ft tall I would leave them be. If they're taller, I would top them, or FIM; comparatively, neither choice will result in a big yield differential. uh.... yea
 

Nimbliez

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Not difficult at all, just stand at the side of your grow area, pick a level and eyeball across your grow. Any tops or branches above your selected level, pinch and bend over. SOG is just that, If you dont have a tall grow area, this is a method. But again, in SOG if you cut out growth tips, that branch will stop growing and try to start 2 new branches. An excellant way to increase the number of tops you get. But more time consuming. LST'ing - nothing stops growing. This is the difference between the 2.

Nim
 

Hedgehunter

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in my first post i say im 'looking to grow 10 plants'...i really should of mentioned the room is a flowering room,5 will be indroduced at 5 week intervals (allowing a 10 week flower and harvest every 5 weeks) as i have a veg chamber, i will be taking clones before i flower them...to continue this cycle...if that makes any sense!!
im using canna pro soil, canna nutes and will be aim for 2oz off each plant(0.41per watt) is this possible ?
 
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