Trump meets Putin

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Tomorrow in Helsinki Trump gets to blow Putin up close.
Do you think he will bring up the invasion of Ukraine?
The interference of Russia in the election in 2016?
The support of that murderer Assad?
Russia's further development of nuclear arms?
The poisonings in London?
Or simply say, Vlad, let's be friends, fuck that other shit.
All I think he will do is the same thing he has been doing for the last 3 years, kiss Russian ass.
 

Herb & Suds

Well-Known Member
Tomorrow in Helsinki Trump gets to blow Putin up close.
Do you think he will bring up the invasion of Ukraine?
The interference of Russia in the election in 2016?
The support of that murderer Assad?
Russia's further development of nuclear arms?
The poisonings in London?
Or simply say, Vlad, let's be friends, fuck that other shit.
All I think he will do is the same thing he has been doing for the last 3 years, kiss Russian ass.
One thing is sure , he will pat himself on the back for it or blame Obama
 

Jack Kilgore

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I still have yet to see how Trump has been 'kissing Putins Ass'. We still have sanctions in place in Russia to include individuals and corporations, Trump has made no qualms about the fact that nothing could come from this meeting, or something, we'll have to wait and see.

Moreover, I haven't heard Trump say more than that about Putin. Everyone claims Putin has something over Trump, but that would imply total control. If that were true, why would Putin allow Trump to do things like encourage the capability of bilateral trade agreements with the US instead of a globalised treatise which would empower Russia as a member of the global community? Or allow Trump to persuade the Europeans' most powerful country--Germany--to disallow more Russian oil into the country? Oil is Russias lifeblood, thats why they hold the Caucasus and the Ukraine, Oil and access to western ports.

Putin, if he was in control, would never allow these actions, nor would he allow for the blatant hegemonic shift thats occurring between the United States and China.

Consider these things before wondering what questions Trump might pose the Russian. Putin is not the most powerful man in the world, Trump is, because his power is vested in and by us. Putin has an 85% approval rating, thats according to American polls, but the problem is that its simply a cult of personality under the authoritarian nationalism of Putin's Russia.

Trump, on the other hand, comes from a position of strength because Russia has nowhere NEAR the influence on the global community that we do. This is true because it was America's globalist tendencies early in the 20th century which led to the creation of global hegemony controlled by the United States. The Soviet Union fell, leaving America the SOLE SUPERPOWER of the 21st century, our military is 20 years and 2 generations more advanced than Russias, our economy is hundreds of times larger, and weve proven that capitalism works far better than communism. Trump embodies all of those things, so its hard to argue that Trump wont stick it to Putin, at the least, honestly. Trump is not afraid, that much is clear. In contrast with the politics of Obama, Trump is not timid, and theres a chance Putin and he may even get along! So the questions over which you speculate are not knowable yet, and shouldn't even be asked because its irrelevant what we think he might do. In an event like this one, where we have no say, no public voice, what becomes important is what he, our representative, actually does. Until then, speculation and imagination create strife because they create an expectation and when people dont get what they expect, they get upset...
 

captainmorgan

Well-Known Member
I still have yet to see how Trump has been 'kissing Putins Ass'. We still have sanctions in place in Russia to include individuals and corporations, Trump has made no qualms about the fact that nothing could come from this meeting, or something, we'll have to wait and see.

Moreover, I haven't heard Trump say more than that about Putin. Everyone claims Putin has something over Trump, but that would imply total control. If that were true, why would Putin allow Trump to do things like encourage the capability of bilateral trade agreements with the US instead of a globalised treatise which would empower Russia as a member of the global community? Or allow Trump to persuade the Europeans' most powerful country--Germany--to disallow more Russian oil into the country? Oil is Russias lifeblood, thats why they hold the Caucasus and the Ukraine, Oil and access to western ports.

Putin, if he was in control, would never allow these actions, nor would he allow for the blatant hegemonic shift thats occurring between the United States and China.

Consider these things before wondering what questions Trump might pose the Russian. Putin is not the most powerful man in the world, Trump is, because his power is vested in and by us. Putin has an 85% approval rating, thats according to American polls, but the problem is that its simply a cult of personality under the authoritarian nationalism of Putin's Russia.

Trump, on the other hand, comes from a position of strength because Russia has nowhere NEAR the influence on the global community that we do. This is true because it was America's globalist tendencies early in the 20th century which led to the creation of global hegemony controlled by the United States. The Soviet Union fell, leaving America the SOLE SUPERPOWER of the 21st century, our military is 20 years and 2 generations more advanced than Russias, our economy is hundreds of times larger, and weve proven that capitalism works far better than communism. Trump embodies all of those things, so its hard to argue that Trump wont stick it to Putin, at the least, honestly. Trump is not afraid, that much is clear. In contrast with the politics of Obama, Trump is not timid, and theres a chance Putin and he may even get along! So the questions over which you speculate are not knowable yet, and shouldn't even be asked because its irrelevant what we think he might do. In an event like this one, where we have no say, no public voice, what becomes important is what he, our representative, actually does. Until then, speculation and imagination create strife because they create an expectation and when people dont get what they expect, they get upset...
Swallow a orange load, jack the cult member, tRUmp loves the stupid.
 

Jack Kilgore

Well-Known Member
Swallow a orange load, jack the cult member, tRUmp loves the stupid.
A typical response from someone who cant explain a word of what they said themselves. Theres no talking to a fool, and besides, what I said is not up for debate.

When u wanna grow up and talk like a man, ill listen, but clearly Ive triggered you and Im not in the business od triggering snowflakes. Good day.
 

UncleBuck

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Ur profile pic confirms this. Ive heard a lot about you, UncleBuck, but just remember that im not here to argue with you, and im not here to cross you, so why dont you just leave me be and ill do the same for you?
gay men have been responsible for more female orgasms than you ever have or will
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
and lie about what was said since they'll be no witnesses.
No, he supposedly records all his meetings now, and as an American citizen, I want to hear it, or at least hear him respond to legitimate questions from ALL the "Fake news" outlets, ie, The Sun, CNN, NBC, ABC, NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, NY Daily News etc,etc,etc.
I'm sick to death of FOX giving him a blow job every time he speaks, and him calling it the only credible news outlet in America.
That's his idea of real news, that full of shit news organization, and the rest of the outlets that have existed before he was even shit out, are fake.
And his half illiterate supporters buy into it
Fucking unbelievable.
 

captainmorgan

Well-Known Member
A typical response from someone who cant explain a word of what they said themselves. Theres no talking to a fool, and besides, what I said is not up for debate.

When u wanna grow up and talk like a man, ill listen, but clearly Ive triggered you and Im not in the business od triggering snowflakes. Good day.
You're proof of the stupidity of the public or just a cult member, either way stop watching fox,info wars or where ever you get your information.
 

Jack Kilgore

Well-Known Member
You're proof of the stupidity of the public or just a cult member, either way stop watching fox,info wars or where ever you get your information.
Proof huh? Explain, if you can. Ok, again with the cult member thing, gettin old bro. 'Or wherever you get ur news?? Wow, that's liberal vaguery at its best. Ur response to my last post is : STOP WATCHING TV NEWS OR WHATEVER OTHER SOURCE. What if we both got our news from the same source? Wouldnt you feel like a goon? And more importantly your literally replying that in order for me to understand the system as well as you do, since ur grasp of things is so omnipresent and omniscient, is to totally abandon my search for information, such as news?? Hahahahahaha and EYE am the fool? Take a good look folks! Few of these fools left! A true rarity in his natural habitat, in the arms of UncleBuck. Lololol jk bud jk.
 

captainmorgan

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Proof huh? Explain, if you can. Ok, again with the cult member thing, gettin old bro. 'Or wherever you get ur news?? Wow, that's liberal vaguery at its best. Ur response to my last post is : STOP WATCHING TV NEWS OR WHATEVER OTHER SOURCE. What if we both got our news from the same source? Wouldnt you feel like a goon? And more importantly your literally replying that in order for me to understand the system as well as you do, since ur grasp of things is so omnipresent and omniscient, is to totally abandon my search for information, such as news?? Hahahahahaha and EYE am the fool? Take a good look folks! Few of these fools left! A true rarity in his natural habitat, in the arms of UncleBuck. Lololol jk bud jk.
All those caps you used is really making me rethink everything.
 

Jack Kilgore

Well-Known Member
Remember when we passed sanctions on Russia something like 532-2 and trumps refused to implement them?
I do, fair point, because its true. Trump chose not to implement them. Why? I suppose because there were fresh sanctions placed on them in January and April of this year. Thats why. He said himself that those sanctions werent strong enough and set harsher ones on companies and individuals along with the state, like i said in my first post, but u failed to read that part, didn't ya?
 

Jack Kilgore

Well-Known Member
All those caps you used is really making me rethink everything.
I used them to highlight your point, for fairness and clarity, get it? Third post, still not a single shred of support of any of ur claims. You havent even tried to tell me why you were right, youve just called me names and acted stuck up lolol
 
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