Two cops got shot in Ferguson last night

ginwilly said:
You can always tell when a member here destroys you in a debate or embarrasses you. You make up a fake quote to put in your sig line.

I like seeing my name in your sig, it means I own you. Your obsession while creepy, is flattering.

Every time you post here, you are thinking of me now, do you think of me while you are not here?

I know what it was, when I laughed at you for liking your own post. Maybe you should bitch about OTHER people's sock puppets. That's always great coming from you.

Just how many windows do you keep open at the same time for this site?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_breakdown#Symptoms
 
When was the last time you saw a cop walking down your street meeting and greeting and getting to know people in the neighborhood?
 
NoDrama said:
He isn't here for that.
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you guys gave up on trying to debate a while back. makes sense, since you idiots were simply here to try to justify your racist beliefs.

only so many times you guys can handle having your retarded beliefs called out and shitcanned before you started having complete mental breakdowns about it.

now you guys try to act like i'm not even here to rebut your nonsense, putting you slightly below the level of a toddler when it comes to the concept of object permanence.

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if you can't see it, it must not be there, right?

grow the fuck up you dumb racists.
 
I've had police in my house three times in the past month. They were here to do their job; make sure that no criminal activity was taking place, that there was no threat to the community and to keep the peace.

I'm not a thug. When they asked me pointed questions about my large and visible collection of marijuana, I was honest; A. It's part of my research project and B. I CAN'T legally sell it, so here it sits!

They stopped by again yesterday to ensure that I was in compliance with state law and local ordinance, and I gave them the run of the house. They looked around, confirmed that I was in compliance and were in such a hurry to leave that they didn't even want to speak with my lawyer, whom I'd made available to answer their questions from the day before.

In other words, they're just trying to do their job. They're in the firing line between laws that make no sense and people who don't know whether they can be trusted, and that makes for a tough day behind the badge.

They tested me with respect because I treated them that way, I'm sure of it.

Does this make me 'pro cop'? A 'police advocate'?

I can say this much; imagine what our cities would look like if there weren't any police, with informal vigilante groups roaming around and thugs who don't care whom they abuse having free reign. That's called 'anarchy' and I'm no fan of that.

Colorado is in the midst of an experiment in marijuana legalization, and I found myself in the position of being something of an ambassador for all of us on RIU and elsewhere who just want to grow our own and be left alone. If I had treated them as enemies, what would that say about all of us?

Yes, I took a calculated risk by letting them in a month ago to look around. What was the likely outcome of refusing them? I'm willing to bet there would have been a search warrant, an arrest (mine!) and lots of nasty charges I'd have had to fight off.

Treating them with respect, recognizing they have a job to do and assuring them that they and I are on the same side- one of peaceable coexistence with neighbors and community- and that I'm doing my best to follow the letter and the spirit of all applicable laws, got me their respect.

Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
 
ttystikk said:
Yes, I took a calculated risk by letting them in a month ago to look around. What was the likely outcome of refusing them? I'm willing to bet there would have been a search warrant, an arrest (mine!) and lots of nasty charges I'd have had to fight off.



Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
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So what you are saying is that because you let the police search your domicile, they didn't arrest you for growing MJ. But you surmise that if you had refused their search they would have somehow gotten a warrant and you would have been arrested for growing MJ.

If you aren't doing anything illegal, how can they show probable cause to get a warrant, and even if they did secure one, why would they arrest you? AFAIK You have to commit a crime to get arrested, not refuse a request. Or are you saying that they would arrest you on false pretenses?

Sounds like a bad case of cognitive dissonance to me. You commend the police and treat them with respect, but then admit that if you don't play their game that you would be on the receiving end of unlawful and egregious treatment. How can you respect that?
 
NoDrama said:
So what you are saying is that because you let the police search your domicile, they didn't arrest you for growing MJ. But you surmise that if you had refused their search they would have somehow gotten a warrant and you would have been arrested for growing MJ.

If you aren't doing anything illegal, how can they show probable cause to get a warrant, and even if they did secure one, why would they arrest you? AFAIK You have to commit a crime to get arrested, not refuse a request. Or are you saying that they would arrest you on false pretenses?

Sounds like a bad case of cognitive dissonance to me. You commend the police and treat them with respect, but then admit that if you don't play their game that you would be on the receiving end of unlawful and egregious treatment. How can you respect that?
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Police have broad discretion in their jobs, for many very good reasons. Had I refused to let them in the first night, they would have (reasonably or not) expected that I HAD something to hide and they would have treated me accordingly.

After all, I have several pounds of product in jars just sitting on my desk. They COULD easily have deduced I was preparing to distribute it illegally and charged me with same. A charge is not guilt- but I would then have been in the position of having to explain in court why I had so much. That's expensive and time consuming and fraught with its own risks.

Instead, I told them I had nothing to hide and let them look around. That kind of trust paid benefits.

If you were the guy behind the badge, there's no way you'd treat those two situations the same. Why not? Because (McCarthyist as it might sound) people with nothing to hide don't act like they have something to hide. Becoming antagonistic would have invited them to do the same, and they have ALL the power in this situation.

If that's not explanation enough, then I wish you luck in your next traffic stop... cuz you're gonna need it.
 
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