unexplained yellow and inconsistent growth please help

this was working but i have been neglecting them a little for attention. still taking care of them though and now i see (pictures below) and in veg some inexplicably grow better then others.

i am battling pm an gnats for months but i have less lately yet my plants seem to be showing deficiencys or some thing.

indoor, soil/soil-less mix ffof, emerald triangle recipe 420, vermiculite,e.b.stone organics, coir, pumice,pearlite, rock dust, dried crushed cannabis leaf, alfalfa meal,hand full of local high dg/clay soil ,diatomaceous earth, and a dash of lime some has guano and a little woody cheap organic mix not all uniformly mixed as i plant to retill and mix as i go and i will add compost 2nd grow for some of it
ph soil water runoff at 6-7
water ph 5-8 depending. alternate water once feed once every 4-7 days as its been cool usually 2- 3 a week here in southern cal.
my nutrients are : General organics cal-mag, bloom 2-4-4, grow 4-3-3, earth juice micro, bloom 0-3-1, potassium gluconate mix 0-0-6, Athenas Aminas amino's, botanacare seaplex, silica blast, fulvic acid, occasional tea
i feed every thing btwn half and full strength usually btwn every other and some things like seaplex and fulvic every third or fourth. in bloom i let some leafs start to yellow then give them a full feeding and watch them green. that way i don't over feed and they usualy seem to like it. in veg i have a bad habit of letting things go as long as posable like growth or watering and i notice some plants do better then their sisters in the same tent.

in veg




in bloom
6 weeks and 2 weeks

never to be afraid to admit a screw up here on RIU ....we here to help

and in your case early is ....essential

for a successful recovery right here and now .....is doubtful


imo gently wash out the rootball of all the screwd plants and repot into

say: Fox Farm Ocean Forest and 50% perlite

no food ever, water well

dim light for the first 24 hours allow to drain well overnight is good

then under the light but at a distance for the first 24hours then continue

never fall for the noob trick of removing them leaves dead or yellow

use as control points

be gentle death is near

good luck

You are over doing it.

Why run dry amendments and liquid feed?

One or the other.

I suggest making some soil, let it cook, cut with plenty of perlite or sand.

You are frying the poor things.

Run off pH means nothing. Mix equal parts soil and deionized water and test pH of slurry for proper soil pH.

Mixing liquids and organic amendments is tricky. I've really only ever seen advanced growers use this technique successfully. You have a lot going on in those pots and as a result, you've got some lockout as well as many other issues going on. I agree with the advice you've been given. You could try rinsing and using FFOF but its going to be touch and go and you must resist the urge to keep adding and adjusting. This is a good learning experience though. GL

Less is more and keep it stupid simple.

Every time I get away from that I screw up.

whitebb2727 said:

Less is more and keep it stupid simple.

Every time I get away from that I screw up.

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Absolutely agree. Other than the labor of digging and lugging materials, my outdoor grows were always effortless. When I finally adopted this practice inside, my indoor gardens flourished like never before. I just needed to stop over-thinking and go straight back to my "roots" so to speak and implement basic gardening practices. I'll never look back. Even the occasional hydro grows I've done, I still stick to simplicity. Some Dynagrow Foliage and Protekt and that's it.

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thanks guys.
i have also been spraying to double strength k bicarb. and it started around then.
i think i have been having issues with some sections of soil being better then others now with what you say ,whitebb2727 it seems to conform it. i think most of the soil web has got to really working and kicking in now im over loading it when i feed. @Tangerine it's interesting that you say that because i used to grow out doors then stopped then when i first started an indoor grow the guys that tutored me where advanced growers and my grow and harvest turned out better then my first this time.
like you guys say there is a lot going on in the soil. Vostok or somebody do you think i can just flush by not feeding and watering with run off. what do you think about reusing soil in general and in this case. i know that last part is in other threads just wondering what any one reading this thinks.

if i have lock out that means build up in this case right?
can i re cook the soil? or continue with a flush?

We all screw up. I have. Even dug them up and put in good soil.

I actually think its easier to dig them up and put them in fresh soil then it is to "flush" them with gallons and gallons of water. In my experience, the recovery time is much faster.

dug 6 up, redirted 5 are done next week and it looks like half the yeild it should be. maybe the effects and potency will be good. got some in veg recovering , though i can't tell and a few that wern't effected yet i will dig up later.
also took cuttings.
can't upload pics yet
dirt this time is about 25% coir 25% ffof 25 ffhf 25 ebstone 420 and added worm stuff and pumice