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sbirch

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Dutch Master Zone? Maybe Ill try it, is it as cheap as bleach.. Kidding, maybe I still will, my rez temps are 80 and have been for weeks. But maybe it's luck. Whats in dutch master zone anyway?
 

legallyflying

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DM zone is essentially chloramine. Or that's what I have heard several times. Chloramine..for those that lack the ability to google it, is chlorine bonded with ammonia. Much more stable, does NOT off gas or come out of solution like chlorine does.

Rez temp of 80! Yeah, you could say that your lucky although several not so flattering adjectives come to mind first. :)
 

joe macclennan

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DM zone is essentially chloramine. Or that's what I have heard several times. Chloramine..for those that lack the ability to google it, is chlorine bonded with ammonia. Much more stable, does NOT off gas or come out of solution like chlorine does.

Rez temp of 80! Yeah, you could say that your lucky although several not so flattering adjectives come to mind first. :)

I believe chloramine is less effective as a sterilizing agent than chlorine or cal.hypo. But, yes more stable.
 

legallyflying

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I can attest to that. Our city has low levels of chloramine..and Cyanobacteria

If I don't do something to combat the slime I get it EVERY time. The price of having fresh clean water I guess. Some of the best tasting water in the country supposedly. Anywho, it's 16 ppm out of the tap :)
 

joe macclennan

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well sumbitch fucking root aphids are back. Well, I think they have been here i've just been misidentifying them as fungus gnat larvae. It appears you were correct 1itsme. I've been doing weekly drenches with a mixture of azaguard/evergreen and cinnamon oil in flower for what I thought were the gnat larvae. It's been keeping them down but not quite eradicated. Interestingly I was using gnatrol as a drench in veg. up until a few weeks ago too and it must have been effective against the little buggers. Shits expensive tho.I skipped a few weeks just cuz I was lazy more than anything and noticed quite a few larvae clumping together in the bottom of my ebb buckets after flood. so I got my loupe out to look a little closer and sure as shit aphid babies. FUCK I've seen no adults or fliers so the evergreen/pyrethrin cinn. drenches must have been doing ok but not quite good enough. Guess I'm gonna have to step it up. I did a drench in veg with the Imidacloprid and evergreen mixed together. I tested the mix on a few yesterday and they seem to be doing fine with this mixture. I hate using that imid cuz it's some strong stuff. Gots to do what I gots to do. I may end up dumping some of the sns203 into my rez. too. idk. I hate to add stuff like this to clean rez. tho. Maybe I'll wait till the end of the rez. life and do it. I'm increasing the evergreen dose at every drench. no slime or bullshit tho thanks to the cal hypo. 1-2 ml/gallon
 

El Tiberon

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I haven't used my frozen jugs in the res in weeks. Not a sign of algae. The pool shock works really well. Res temps have averaged more than 80 degrees. The only problem I am having is all the rain we are getting here is knocking the flowers off all my vegetables. The aero system as a whole is performing very well. Well more than 1 inch a day of growth and to be honest it is closer to 2 inches a day.
 

El Tiberon

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There are more videos there that show the system from the beginning to yesterday. Click the You tube button and it will be easy to find them. I make one video each week to record the testing of this system.

[video=youtube_share;GuJwprstqIg]http://youtu.be/GuJwprstqIg[/video]
 

El Tiberon

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This was 8 weeks ago and included the time I had nute issues and fighting the algae. The growth is amazing to watch. This should prove to people that even in the heat of the dirty south, algae can be easily controlled even with high water temps. I would not recommend that people use different plants in the same rails. There are too many different nute levels plants require to be perfect with the grow. This system will be packed up and taken to Cali, Colombia with me for further testing.

[video=youtube_share;ucrR55fIVIE]http://youtu.be/ucrR55fIVIE[/video]
 

legallyflying

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Bummer about the root aphids Joe. I heard they are neary impossibly to get rid off!

Let me know how it goes, they can be devastating to a harvest for sure!
 

joe macclennan

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yeh, I caught em before too much damage was done this time. Reallly no yellowing whatsoever on plants. I just noticed a few of em floating in my ebb buckets. I'm hitting my veg. plants hard with imid/spectrazine . I did my moms with this concoction tonight. If I don't see any ill effects tomorrow gonna do the rest of veg. with it. Thinking about doing an orthene drench next week in veg. To rotate something else in and stave off any possible resistance. I've never used orthene in this way, but the label says it can be used as a drench. I did my flower tables with a azaguard/evergreen/sns-203/cinnamon oil drench tonight as well. I upped the evergreen to 7ml/gallon. Hopefully it isn't too much. we'll see. Fucking bugs:(
 

joe macclennan

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so anyway, been awhile since I've posted here and figured i'd give an update.

The slime is non existent anymore, and I haven't had to add any bleach since like three weeks ago. Even then I applied the diluted solution of pool shock 2grams/gallon water. @ a rate of 1ml/gallon rez and it cleared it right up likity split. Only one dose needed upon new rez and it lasted all week slime free.
 
i had to be a dumb ass with a silly question. When everyone is reffering to the amounts of chlorine to put in there nut solution is it the dissolved chlorine solution or straight out of the chlorine pack.

Can someone put up a noob formula.

eg.
when using pool shock that is at 45% availble chlorine, then mix 1 oz to a gallon of water then use the MIXED solution at 1ml per litre etc etc.

and same for the liquid version.

I think it will help to let people know what % of cholrine to mix when and how please.
 
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