I have a couple questions on vegging good old mary jane...... first off does the vegetative stage start as soon as i seen a little green girl poking out of the soil or is it after a certain amount of development. Also im planning on using LST using the spiral pattern. With this method do i want to go to 12/12 when it goes all the way around the pot or earlier since is will probably triple in size during flowering. Using LST cause im doing a micro grow. Thanks.