Illmatic17
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I was going to go with a phlizon 600w but after a bit of reading people saying they bad so i am now thinking of a 600w viparspectra led for a small autoflower closer grow is it worth it and would it actually work?!
Viparspectra newest dimmable 600w led thoughts???
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SnidleyBluntash
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I purposely got a viparspectra 300w dimmable just to save power. I don’t need full blast watts all the time. I like to give dim light to other house plants as well. They arnt the most powerful.
Lockedin
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I have the VA-1200 Dimmable in my 4x4.
If I was ordering from Vipar today, I'd be getting an XS or pro series - probably a pair of XS-4000.
That said - here's my experience with the VA-1200.
Love the spectrum adjustment knobs - 1 veg (Blu / wht) & 1 Bloom (red / wht).*
It is a 6-band burple, but with a lot of white, as well as far red for bloom.
Current grow is running 75% veg / 30% bloom on the knobs.
Here's the problem, once my plants get into veg, I crank both knobs to 100% - in bloom I'll add more lights - it will not flower a 4x4.
The VA-1200 draws appx. 260 true at the wall - nowhere near 35 watts / sq ft in my tent; the light fall of is very noticeable on the periphery.
Actually, I'm considering buying 3 more of them for this tent for a total of 4 VA-1200 - 1040 true watts at the wall, dimmable and tunable spectrum.
Depending on the size of your enclosure, you may want to consider the 1200, or 2 600's (more flexible solution)
If I was ordering from Vipar today, I'd be getting an XS or pro series - probably a pair of XS-4000.
That said - here's my experience with the VA-1200.
Love the spectrum adjustment knobs - 1 veg (Blu / wht) & 1 Bloom (red / wht).*
It is a 6-band burple, but with a lot of white, as well as far red for bloom.
Current grow is running 75% veg / 30% bloom on the knobs.
Here's the problem, once my plants get into veg, I crank both knobs to 100% - in bloom I'll add more lights - it will not flower a 4x4.
The VA-1200 draws appx. 260 true at the wall - nowhere near 35 watts / sq ft in my tent; the light fall of is very noticeable on the periphery.
Actually, I'm considering buying 3 more of them for this tent for a total of 4 VA-1200 - 1040 true watts at the wall, dimmable and tunable spectrum.
Depending on the size of your enclosure, you may want to consider the 1200, or 2 600's (more flexible solution)
Rocket Soul
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Whenever ive looked up the vipar their spectrum looks really blue heavy. This might be on purpose, more blue means more transpiration and an easier grow but less yield and slower flowering.
If they have a new white based light there might be some improvement on their previous blurple offerings but they have never built a light that like, and never out up the kind of transparency and info one would need to evaluate their lights.
I would just suggest not wasting time with them
If they have a new white based light there might be some improvement on their previous blurple offerings but they have never built a light that like, and never out up the kind of transparency and info one would need to evaluate their lights.
I would just suggest not wasting time with them
SBBCal
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If you're going vipar get the P series or new XS. I've had the both and currently use 2-xs2000's. No burple, no complaints. https://www.cocoforcannabis.com/ dude does a legit review on the P1500. XS is newer with meanwell drivers and samsung diodes.
Lockedin
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It is blue heavy - but adjustable.
If I had the 3 additional VA-1200s in my tent now, I'd stay on this spectrum until flower, then crank the red and drop the blue a bit.
BUT - with the one light (and a couple other burples), I have to crank both knobs to max and live with the slightly blue burple.
Here's pics -
1 with veg knob at 100%
1 with bloom knob at 100%
1 with both knobs at 100%
Interestingly, the light appears much whiter with the blue knobs up, but the camera sensor on my phone seems to be reading the UV diodes as well.
edit - excuse the messy tent - the little pots are OG Kush (staying in the tent), the 4 1 gallons are bagseeds that I'm going to play with in another enclosure. Haven't figured out exactly what I want to do yet --- maybe just 12/12 from seed (I have A LOT of these seeds to mess with).
Lockedin
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Lockedin
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That's what I went with! lol
I believed it would flower a 4x4 too - until I struck it in the tent for the first time --- HOT spot, and a lot of fall-off - or hang it at 48"
I ended up with the VA-1200 covering most of 2 plants, 3 additional, very red burples, and one 105w(True), 3500k bar w/ red switch.
Wish I had signed up at RIU before pulling the trigger.
Lesson learned.
BUT - that light does grow nice plants - just not as many as they say it will.
SBBCal
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Hey, I started with vipars va300's 
Only tried to steer you away from the burp bc it's old tech. Not saying they don't work, just there are new led options now. I'm currently running 2x-Vipar XS2000's. Much better tech and prob paid the same price. If you have friends that want to get into growing, sell them yours after this grow (or after veg) and get new lights. Win , win.
Only tried to steer you away from the burp bc it's old tech. Not saying they don't work, just there are new led options now. I'm currently running 2x-Vipar XS2000's. Much better tech and prob paid the same price. If you have friends that want to get into growing, sell them yours after this grow (or after veg) and get new lights. Win , win.
Lockedin
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Hey, I started with vipars va300's
Sorry - I'm not the OP - bought mine last grow
SBBCal
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All it takes is a few seconds to read the full description. It is shitty tho
NukaKola
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Still a poor deceptive business practice. Either buy Alibaba (Kingbrite/Meijiu) lights that are similar quality for half the price or pay 20-30% more for an HLG.
No point in paying close to US prices for rebranded Chinese lights.