Warren for VP

Fogdog · May 28, 2020

She would make a great president. Driven by details, knowlegeable about the law, especially bankruptcy laws. Has consistently served up rebuttals against presidential coddling of financial industry, pragmatic vocal supporter of single payer healthcare, track record of getting stuff done

And, its a long shot this could happen but,

Famed Democratic pollster: Warren as VP would lead to Biden victory

Stan Greenberg, one of the Democratic Party's longtime leading pollsters, urged Hillary Clinton in 2016 to pick Elizabeth Warren as her vice president. He thinks Clinton would be president had she listened.

Now Greenberg — who popularized the term “Reagan Democrats” and came to prominence as Bill Clinton’s lead pollster — is urging Joe Biden’s team to heed the same advice

In measuring several different messages of various candidates without their names attached,
Greenberg told Biden's team that Warren's message about a “rigged” system was “dominant” among the groups Biden needs, such as millennials who may feel disillusioned by the tumult of recent decades.

Greenberg's analysis may be a surprise given that he is not exactly a left-wing firebrand. His most famous political clients include former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Al Gore and Bill Clinton. He co-founded a firm with Democratic strategist James Carville and also co-authored a book with him in 2012. He has long criticized the Democratic Party on immigration, an appraisal he shared with Hillary Clinton, as she recounted in her post-2016 campaign book, "What Happened."

Famed Democratic pollster: Warren as VP would lead to Biden victory

Contrary to conventional wisdom, Stan Greenberg says the Massachusetts senator would bring the biggest political upside — and he's making the case to Biden.

www.politico.com

UncleBuck · May 28, 2020

Duckworth or I vote forjill stein again

schuylaar · May 28, 2020

i'm down but it doesn't take a 'famed democratic pollster' to suggest this. shame people can' think for themselves.

topcat · May 28, 2020

Fogdog said:
She would make a great president. Driven by details, knowlegeable about the law, especially bankruptcy laws. Has consistently served up rebuttals against presidential coddling of financial industry, pragmatic vocal supporter of single payer healthcare, track record of getting stuff done

And, its a long shot this could happen but,

Famed Democratic pollster: Warren as VP would lead to Biden victory

Stan Greenberg, one of the Democratic Party's longtime leading pollsters, urged Hillary Clinton in 2016 to pick Elizabeth Warren as her vice president. He thinks Clinton would be president had she listened.

Now Greenberg — who popularized the term “Reagan Democrats” and came to prominence as Bill Clinton’s lead pollster — is urging Joe Biden’s team to heed the same advice

In measuring several different messages of various candidates without their names attached,
Greenberg told Biden's team that Warren's message about a “rigged” system was “dominant” among the groups Biden needs, such as millennials who may feel disillusioned by the tumult of recent decades.

Greenberg's analysis may be a surprise given that he is not exactly a left-wing firebrand. His most famous political clients include former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Al Gore and Bill Clinton. He co-founded a firm with Democratic strategist James Carville and also co-authored a book with him in 2012. He has long criticized the Democratic Party on immigration, an appraisal he shared with Hillary Clinton, as she recounted in her post-2016 campaign book, "What Happened."

Famed Democratic pollster: Warren as VP would lead to Biden victory

Contrary to conventional wisdom, Stan Greenberg says the Massachusetts senator would bring the biggest political upside — and he's making the case to Biden.

www.politico.com

She would, but she's apart from Joe's (right) centrist mantra, so I don't think she'll be picked. This time, the VP pick is extremely important, in many ways, not just geographical. It needs to be female, but not just because she's black, or mixed race. My pick for Attorney General is Kamala Harris. It would be sweet to prosecute "da donohdt" for his crimes against the presidency and constitution. My best guess is he'll choose Amy Klobuchar.

Fogdog · May 28, 2020

schuylaar said:
i'm down but it doesn't take a 'famed democratic pollster' to suggest this. shame people can' think for themselves.

It's not as if anybody here has influence. That guy does. But yeah, it's a shame more people don't agree with me.

hanimmal · May 28, 2020

The only downfall is that it would trigger a special election in the next year after a Republican governor picks someone. The polling nerd on MSNBC did a really good breakdown on the options. But I think it would be worth it too. I would like to see Abrams, but this is not a year to screw around because it is the best choice. We (the people who voted) would have picked mayor Pete as the Democratic nominee if that was the case.

Fogdog said:
It's not as if anybody here has influence. That guy does. But yeah, it's a shame more people don't agree with me.

I agree with you.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/biden-warren-vs-trump-whoever-2020.996854/

schuylaar · May 28, 2020

topcat said:
She would, but she's apart from Joe's (right) centrist mantra, so I don't think she'll be picked. This time, the VP pick is extremely important, in many ways, not just geographical. It needs to be female, but not just because she's black, or mixed race. My pick for Attorney General is Kamala Harris. It would be sweet to prosecute "da donohdt" for his crimes against the presidency and constitution. My best guess is he'll choose Amy Klobuchar.

do you know what too white is? a karen..amy klobuchar will be a dud and worse than if he chose clinton herself.

it'll be grandpa oatmeal and cream o' wheat klobuchar.

Fogdog · May 28, 2020

hanimmal said:
The only downfall is that it would trigger a special election in the next year after a Republican governor picks someone. The polling nerd on MSNBC did a really good breakdown on the options. But I think it would be worth it too. I would like to see Abrams, but this is not a year to screw around because it is the best choice. We (the people who voted) would have picked mayor Pete as the Democratic nominee if that was the case.

I agree with you.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/biden-warren-vs-trump-whoever-2020.996854/

I don't agree with you about Buttigieg or Abrams. I think we need people with experience in Washington DC to lead us out of this mess. Abrams and Buttigieg are examples of the up-and-coming generation of leaders and I have no doubt they will serve the country well. On reflection, I'm still very proud of the fine field of candidates who ran this year.

I'm almost always wrong about who the candidates will be. I always liked Warren, but I'm a wonk and was attracted to Warren because she sweats the details like few others do. A plan for everything, to the point where it's comical. But still, what a refreshing difference from Trump. She'd be an active Veep if she got the nod. No way she'd sit about waiting for a call from Biden.

It does put a seat at risk in the Senate. It's up to Democrats to find the right person to run for it if Warren vacates it. I think it would be a sign of fearfulness and weakness if that were the reason they chose somebody else. But then again, I admit that I'm biased.

Jimdamick · May 28, 2020

I think it would be winning combination for Democrats of all stripes also.
A moderate in Biden & a progressive in Warren.
What's not to like about it?

schuylaar · May 28, 2020

Fogdog said:
I don't agree with you about Buttigieg or Abrams. I think we need people with experience in Washington DC to lead us out of this mess. Abrams and Buttigieg are examples of the up-and-coming generation of leaders and I have no doubt they will serve the country well. On reflection, I'm still very proud of the fine field of candidates who ran this year.

I'm almost always wrong about who the candidates will be. I always liked Warren, but I'm a wonk and was attracted to Warren because she sweats the details like few others do. A plan for everything, to the point where it's comical. But still, what a refreshing difference from Trump. She'd be an active Veep if she got the nod. No way she'd sit about waiting for a call from Biden.

It does put a seat at risk in the Senate. It's up to Democrats to find the right person to run for it if Warren vacates it. I think it would be a sign of fearfulness and weakness if that were the reason they chose somebody else. But then again, I admit that I'm biased.

MA is a blue state i wouldn't worry about her seat.

schuylaar · May 28, 2020

Jimdamick said:
I think it would be winning combination for Democrats of all stripes also.
A moderate in Biden & a progressive in Warren.
What's not to like about?

sweet and sour.

i'm still bummed about the two-faced kitten who died in oregon.

dandyrandy · May 28, 2020

Piss Trump off too.

Padawanbater2 · May 28, 2020

Delusional as usual

topcat · May 28, 2020

schuylaar said:
do you know what too white is? a karen..amy klobuchar will be a dud and worse than if he chose clinton herself.

it'll be grandpa oatmeal and cream o' wheat klobuchar.

No, please teach me what too white is. Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe you'd like Angela Davis? Giggle it.

Fogdog · May 28, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Delusional as usual

This message approved by the unproductive wing of the Democratic party.

Fogdog · May 28, 2020

topcat said:
No, please teach me what too white is. Inquiring minds want to know. Maybe you'd like Angela Davis? Giggle it.

Bernie Sanders is a black man.

hanimmal · May 28, 2020

Fogdog said:
I don't agree with you about Buttigieg or Abrams. I think we need people with experience in Washington DC to lead us out of this mess. Abrams and Buttigieg are examples of the up-and-coming generation of leaders and I have no doubt they will serve the country well. On reflection, I'm still very proud of the fine field of candidates who ran this year.

I'm almost always wrong about who the candidates will be. I always liked Warren, but I'm a wonk and was attracted to Warren because she sweats the details like few others do. A plan for everything, to the point where it's comical. But still, what a refreshing difference from Trump. She'd be an active Veep if she got the nod. No way she'd sit about waiting for a call from Biden.

It does put a seat at risk in the Senate. It's up to Democrats to find the right person to run for it if Warren vacates it. I think it would be a sign of fearfulness and weakness if that were the reason they chose somebody else. But then again, I admit that I'm biased.

100% right on, I was not thinking of it in today's terms. There is too much going on for any holes anymore, when I wrote this, the world didn't fall apart yet, I was really hoping Trump would get lucky and the first domino wouldn't have fallen prior to Biden being sworn in.

I was thinking that Biden might be able to have 4 easy years (relatively speaking, world calamity wise) and handed off the reigns last year. He can still hand it off in 4 years, but there is no screwing around with this 4 years either. I think it is worth the risk of the Democratic control of the Senate for a couple months since I think the governor of that state dislikes Trump.

I heard about this earlier, I haven't read it yet though: https://www.vox.com/2020/5/26/21257648/joe-biden-climate-economy-tax-plans

It goes into Biden having a lot of plans too, sounded interesting to skim.

I really liked the idea of Demmings too. I think Biden could pull off having someone like Romney as Secretary of State maybe (knowing nothing outside of him being spot on about Russia in 2012 and someone Republicans could appreciate as a gesture), assuming he doesn't have any xenophobic tendencies. I don't know, now that I am thinking about it, someone like Omar might be an interesting pick. Maybe not Omar, but someone that has real insight into being multicultural.

schuylaar · May 28, 2020

dandyrandy said:
Piss Trump off too.

she'll be a russian commie asset here to destroy america..it wasn't tulsi after all..it was that commie elizabeth!

who rewarded russia..'IF they were listening'?

Padawanbater2 · May 28, 2020

hanimmal said:
100% right on, I was not thinking of it in today's terms. There is too much going on for any holes anymore, when I wrote this, the world didn't fall apart yet, I was really hoping Trump would get lucky and the first domino wouldn't have fallen prior to Biden being sworn in.

I was thinking that Biden might be able to have 4 easy years (relatively speaking, world calamity wise) and handed off the reigns last year. He can still hand it off in 4 years, but there is no screwing around with this 4 years either. I think it is worth the risk of the Democratic control of the Senate for a couple months since I think the governor of that state dislikes Trump.

I heard about this earlier, I haven't read it yet though: https://www.vox.com/2020/5/26/21257648/joe-biden-climate-economy-tax-plans

It goes into Biden having a lot of plans too, sounded interesting to skim.

I really liked the idea of Demmings too. I think Biden could pull off having someone like Romney as Secretary of State maybe (knowing nothing outside of him being spot on about Russia in 2012 and someone Republicans could appreciate as a gesture), assuming he doesn't have any xenophobic tendencies. I don't know, now that I am thinking about it, someone like Omar might be an interesting pick. Maybe not Omar, but someone that has real insight into being multicultural.

This is the kind of Democrat the party produces these days, someone satisfied Biden might choose Romney for a fuckin' cabinet position

Why not just join the Republican party and quit LARPING as a Democrat?

topcat · May 28, 2020

Fogdog said:
Bernie Sanders is a black man.

Ah, so that's what is so inspiring about him!

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