Week 1 flower. HELP PLEASE

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Jrbanks

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I’m noticing the fan leaf stems are all purple now.. also all fan leaves seem droopy/wilted .. posted a few days ago asking How she looks and only got 1 reply and it was “abit over watered” I give about 2/3 litres every 5 days And she’s in 5gallon pot under 450w led (360w from wall) first time top dressing 5 days ago with Gaia green power bloom and 1/4 strength sensi grow a/b150C6597-6375-45B2-987D-9D8019A804E0.jpegFA9D2291-E682-4F44-9EFE-BD858CEC5CDB.jpeg51251E54-BD2D-4CFC-A53D-B6F02D0851BF.jpeg
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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Water her.

Mines in a 5gal pail and it needs a gallon (4L) of water every 3 days.

The stem purpling could be genetics or a nutrient lockout. They really aren't a good indicator of an issue.

The upturned leaf margins are saying heat stress or overwatering but your soil looks like the Sahara is wetter. Soil pulling from the edge of the pot is a bad sign.

I also see a Walmart distilled water bottle in the background. Switch to spring water.
 
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Jrbanks

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Kalebaiden said:
Water her.

Mines in a 5gal pail and it needs a gallon (4L) of water every 3 days.

The stem purpling could be genetics or a nutrient lockout. They really aren't a good indicator of an issue.

The upturned leaf margins are saying heat stress or overwatering but your soil looks like the Sahara is wetter. Soil pulling from the edge of the pot is a bad sign.

I also see a Walmart distilled water bottle in the background. Switch to spring water.
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Okay I’ll water her today with 4L. Was worried 4L was too much. I don’t think it’s genetics because it’s auto quarter pounder.. must be lock out. My temps are around 25/27c during the day. humidity around 40/50. I usually wait until soil pulls from sides and is light to pick up .. guess wasn’t best idea And for water That’s just a jug I use to mix the nutes and water. Been just using tap water with ph around 7 after nutes
 
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Jrbanks

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I don’t have any ph up/down.. the sensi is ph perfect but I noticed it’s never the same ph. Usually around 6.5-6.8 but recently 7-7.3 not sure why. Maybe because I’m only using 1/4 strength now ? And ph around 8.5 straight from tap with no nutes. Can I use lemon juice to lower ph ? I was hoping to stop giving sensi and only give ph water since I’m top dressing with bloom now
 
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Jrbanks

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What ph range should I be near ? I read threads of people saying not to check ph in soil grow etc and also maybe my ph meter is off ? I never calibrated cause don’t have the stuff to
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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6.2 to 6.5 any lower or higher and you can get lockouts.

Buy some pH up and down. It really does make a huge difference and allows for immediate solving of pH related issues.

Soil grows require pH'd input. Output (runoff) pH is irrelevant. Don't check it, it doesn't matter.

If your soil mix is balanced, it will eat whatever you put into it as long as what you put in is pH'd properly.
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

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If you’ve been under watering it for some time saltS build up and causing pH lockout.

If I were you I’d flush with water twice the pot volume and then give a good 4l worth of 1/2th feed.

Saved one of my plants which was dropping just like yours.
 
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Jrbanks

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@Kalebaiden Gonna go to my local shop tomorrow and pick some up. If ph was the issue, how fast Would I see results/change? Also hoping my ph meter is reading accurate. Isn’t ph perfect suppose to bring it to 6.5? Rather than all over the place. And Thank you for this help! Very much appreciated!!
 
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Jrbanks

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Nutty sKunK said:
If you’ve been under watering it for some time saltS build up and causing pH lockout.

If I were you I’d flush with water twice the pot volume and then give a good 4l worth of 1/2th feed.

Saved one of my plants which was dropping just like yours.
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About 2 weeks ago the top of soil and bottom drain holes were looking salty so I poured about 4L ( until I got run off ) salty areas went away then continued back to regular waterings (2/3L)
 
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Jrbanks said:
About 2 weeks ago the top of soil and bottom drain holes were looking salty so I poured about 4L ( until I got run off ) salty areas went away then continued back to regular waterings (2/3L)
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The knack with flushing multiple times is that it takes time for the nutrients to become water soluble and move down out the pot. You probably just loosened them and moved them lower.

So multiple large waterings. Your pH is high after feed.Does the feed make your water lower or higher?
 
Kalebaiden

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Jrbanks said:
@Kalebaiden Gonna go to my local shop tomorrow and pick some up. If ph was the issue, how fast Would I see results/change? Also hoping my ph meter is reading accurate. Isn’t ph perfect suppose to bring it to 6.5? Rather than all over the place. And Thank you for this help! Very much appreciated!!
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No idea about pH perfect. I micromanage every aspect of my grow so I can push out the best tasting bud possible.
 
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Jrbanks

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Nutty sKunK said:
The knack with flushing multiple times is that it takes time for the nutrients to become water soluble and move down out the pot. You probably just loosened them and moved them lower.

So multiple large waterings. Your pH is high after feed.Does the feed make your water lower or higher?
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After adding nutes it goes down but not enough to be in the proper range last few waterings around 6.8-7.3
 
Kalebaiden

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Could I ask for a picture of this pH perfect? The scientific part of my brain says something ain't right.
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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I refuse to use nutrients that contain piss (urea)as the nitrogen source.

Now as for it being pH perfect, I doubt it.

Make sure you get the pH up as well and figure out a way to calibrate your meter.

There's nothing wrong with those nutrients. Urea is a pet peeve of mine.
 
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Jrbanks

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Kalebaiden said:
I refuse to use nutrients that contain piss (urea)as the nitrogen source.

Now as for it being pH perfect, I doubt it.

Make sure you get the pH up as well and figure out a way to calibrate your meter.

There's nothing wrong with those nutrients. Urea is a pet peeve of mine.
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I didn’t know that urea was piss but also didn’t really look at ingredients and yes I will do that
 
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