Happy New Years ...I want to get a pound a month anything more is ok. Last time I grew indoors I used only cfls and when I looked at my old post that was 8 years ago so a lot have changed. Right now I have a 8 bulb t5 and a open wing 600hps and a cool tube 600hps. I’m using the cool tube mhs set to 400 right now for veg and my fluro for seedlings. I’m kinda mixing and matching because I started with just the fluro for veg then figured since my cool tube is just sitting there I’ll use it for once they get out of the seedling stage. I have a 10 by 12 room and a whole basement I can use for veg or flowering looking for some advice for how I should proceed. Right now I’m think flowering in the small room so I can easily carbon filter the smell out and veg/clone/mother the basement. I’m starting in soil then eventually will have a ebb and flow table(sog)and a couple bigger plants in coco or soil with a drip in the flower room
What am I doing wrong
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charface
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You gonna have multiple flower rooms? Im just at a loss how you can make a lb per month unless you have a huge flower room and a pretty busy veg room, and more lights than what you mentioned. Flowering as you know takes 2 months roughly.
I assume you are talking about a perpetual type grow. With plants in different stages so you are harvesting almost constantly.
Anyway, ill be watching to see how this goes.
Good luck
I assume you are talking about a perpetual type grow. With plants in different stages so you are harvesting almost constantly.
Anyway, ill be watching to see how this goes.
Good luck
MichiganMedGrower
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I have been doing it for a few years with a t-5 veg tent in one room and a converted flower room with 2 600’s over an aproximately 4x8 area.
I plant a seed/clone every 10 days or so and harvest about the same a plant at a time. 3-4 plants per month with a 5 oz dry bud average.
We also get a few ounces of bud leaf trim and loose or small nugs to make coconut oil for edibles.
But I haven’t had a day off in years keeping it all going. Part time job in the evening as I run 7pm to 7am in flower. But every day a plant or a lot of them can need attention.
I did this with my 12 plant count but I added a 315 cmh and Mrs mmg’s plants to the system as needed now.
The best part is a different cross or strain for variety every time. And a few strains curing so we can pick what to smoke and make Oil with multiple strains for more diverse canabanoids content.
I plant a seed/clone every 10 days or so and harvest about the same a plant at a time. 3-4 plants per month with a 5 oz dry bud average.
We also get a few ounces of bud leaf trim and loose or small nugs to make coconut oil for edibles.
But I haven’t had a day off in years keeping it all going. Part time job in the evening as I run 7pm to 7am in flower. But every day a plant or a lot of them can need attention.
I did this with my 12 plant count but I added a 315 cmh and Mrs mmg’s plants to the system as needed now.
The best part is a different cross or strain for variety every time. And a few strains curing so we can pick what to smoke and make Oil with multiple strains for more diverse canabanoids content.
firsttimeARE
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You'll get about 0.6gpw up to about 1.2gpw if you sog. So to do 1 lb a month with limited space a sog is the way to go.
1 week veg from clones.
2 mother's to keep up clones and veg in same room with an aerocloner. This can be done in a 4x4 space.
Two 4x4 flood and drain tables one harvesting every 5 weeks. I'd run 8" x 8" pots 25-36 per table. Should get 1.5 units per table. Every 6 weeks.
1 week veg from clones.
2 mother's to keep up clones and veg in same room with an aerocloner. This can be done in a 4x4 space.
Two 4x4 flood and drain tables one harvesting every 5 weeks. I'd run 8" x 8" pots 25-36 per table. Should get 1.5 units per table. Every 6 weeks.
I have to do a lot more research when it comes to cloning looking into the aero type cloners. I’m trying to decide whether my 10x12 room Ima use for flower or the basement. If I did the basement for flower I would have to section off a part to make it easier to scrub that smell out. Right now I have a possible sour d, mazar, white widow, northern lights, cherry pie, jack herer and gorilla that would possibly become mother’s. Clones is the only way possible to make around the average im looking for. I was thinking two ebb and flow tables in the flower room. One of them I was going to put a t5 over it with those walmart 10 dollar t8s on the side just too see how they yield since sog don’t need as much penetration over a foot. I would have 4-6 potted plants that I would let veg for a month or so and have under one of the lights as well.I on giving the clones very little to no veg time. I brought the hps on Craigslist for a deal to see which one work better for my situation. If the cool tube wasn’t half the price I wouldn’t have brought it after reading about its light coverage. Still contemplating getting another t5 8 bulb I would have to wire to plug. Only going to cost me 50 dollars.
8’8 pots?
Space isn’t an issue my basement is a fairly large size but I do work full time and wanted to get everything automated. Even the soil plants will have drippers on timers. I don’t need to maximize the amount of plants in the flower room use enough to get me around a pound a month. While I’m still getting into the swing of things I know my yields won’t be great that’s why now I have about 20 plants total I’m growing out now and 5 northerns that still need to be planted I’m trying to time it so that I’ll have some ready to flower while I’ll let the rest veg for a month or so longer then throw them into flower while I’m taking the others out. The main goal for the moment is to have some viable mothers
Ok it’s been 8 years I’m a noob now lol u added a 315 cnt and mmgs plants?. But that’s kind of sound similar to what I want to do.. the ebb and flow table(sog) seem like the only way to do less work for a higher perpectual yield
firsttimeARE
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Well its work cutting new clones every 5 weeks. But beats training
MichiganMedGrower
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Funny thing is I am considering mono cropping the way you plant and harvest.
I need a vacation!
The closet in the converted bedroom is the drying cabinet. I hang up to 2 levels of cut branches behind a synthetic black curtain that ventilates and is carbon filtered with the flower room exhaust fans.
Uu
i want to try the scrog but anything past topping I’m sure im going to get tired of all that bending and tying screens.. Michmed weed work is still Work you deserve a vacation lol
MichiganMedGrower
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That’s about what I am getting but I need to keep in plant count so I Grow 4-6 oz bushes.
It took a couple years of practice to get to that upper yield range. Your suggestion would have been easier for sure.
The other benefit is we have a meds in house amount to keep to that is rediculously low and I label jars with curing dates and only have 1or 2 plants to deal with at a time.
We used to donate “overages” to the dispensary but no more.
MichiganMedGrower
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Who called you a noob?
A hydro table would speed all this up for sure. But I like growing different seed plants in soil and hand watering. I take care of them all individually together so to speak. I have been making sure they are fully mature before flower.
I am running a few plants 12/12 to compare with the mature vegged ones. Staggared like this I can experiment easily.
I like to move them around and rotate them as I train them to be bushes.
But I work harder than I have to. I commented above about mono cropping. I would likely use pro mix or something only because I am already pretty good at it.
But clones and a flood table makes so much more sense for reliable production.
Here’s my flower room. More of a multi strain medical/ connisour type garden. I am really only concerned with trying to reach the plants potential. I am most concerned with the high and canabanoid content than the numbers.
charface
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Good thread, good info.
I had wondered about this from time to time, and from what im reading i think the mono crop as you called it is really the best option for me.
There are times when I have to spend a few days fully involved but then I just coast until the next batch of work.
I had wondered about this from time to time, and from what im reading i think the mono crop as you called it is really the best option for me.
There are times when I have to spend a few days fully involved but then I just coast until the next batch of work.
MichiganMedGrower
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I did, from last time I grew indoors foil was good to use to use back then..Nice setup huge full plants. I’m def not going for big plants. I know I want to have a staple of 5 mothers of my fav strains but other then that ill just grow other strains from seed and let them have a lengthy veg and a couple may end up like your bushes..Who called you a noob?
A hydro table would speed all this up for sure. But I like growing different seed plants in soil and hand watering. I take care of them all individually together so to speak. I have been making sure they are fully mature before flower.
I am running a few plants 12/12 to compare with the mature vegged ones. Staggared like this I can experiment easily.
I like to move them around and rotate them as I train them to be bushes.
But I work harder than I have to. I commented above about mono cropping. I would likely use pro mix or something only because I am already pretty good at it.
But clones and a flood table makes so much more sense for reliable production.
Here’s my flower room. More of a multi strain medical/ connisour type garden. I am really only concerned with trying to reach the plants potential. I am most concerned with the high and canabanoid content than the numbers.
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firsttimeARE
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Issue with mono cropping. At least for me, I can run 12 flowering plants. That's a lot of trim work.
I grow scrog style due to these low #s so my veg time is 5 weeks. Which is perfect considering my flower time is 10 weeks. 2 6-sitr rdwc staggered 5 weeks apart. Week before crop make clones, crop, move a new batch in when other batch "B" is at week 5. That set of clones will have 1 week to root and 5 weeks of veg before replacing the batch B
I grow scrog style due to these low #s so my veg time is 5 weeks. Which is perfect considering my flower time is 10 weeks. 2 6-sitr rdwc staggered 5 weeks apart. Week before crop make clones, crop, move a new batch in when other batch "B" is at week 5. That set of clones will have 1 week to root and 5 weeks of veg before replacing the batch B
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firsttimeARE
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Week 1 batch A clones
Week 5 cut batch B clones
Week 6 batch A ready for flower
Week 10 cut batch C clones
Week 11 B ready for flower with A half way done
Week 15 cut batch D clones
Week 16 batch C ready to take batch A place
Repeat...this setup allows for 0 mother space as I'm running clones off the previous batch a week before flipping the previous batch
Week 5 cut batch B clones
Week 6 batch A ready for flower
Week 10 cut batch C clones
Week 11 B ready for flower with A half way done
Week 15 cut batch D clones
Week 16 batch C ready to take batch A place
Repeat...this setup allows for 0 mother space as I'm running clones off the previous batch a week before flipping the previous batch
coreywebster
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Budman all you need for a pound a month is a 8x4 flowering room and a 4x4 veg room. Just buy some tents. Or build something.
If I had your space I would run a bigger veg area, doesnt hurt to have more space but it can be a PITA having a bit less than you want.
If your running nft tables or anything you cant move such as a lot of hydro set ups then your going to want to run the crop from start to finish in one area. In which case I would go with 3 4x4 areas.
For me I hand water coco and when one crops finished the other moves from veg tent to flower tent and the cycle continues.
If I had your space I would run a bigger veg area, doesnt hurt to have more space but it can be a PITA having a bit less than you want.
If your running nft tables or anything you cant move such as a lot of hydro set ups then your going to want to run the crop from start to finish in one area. In which case I would go with 3 4x4 areas.
For me I hand water coco and when one crops finished the other moves from veg tent to flower tent and the cycle continues.
MichiganMedGrower
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Yup. That is the right way to do a multi strain perpetual garden for control and consistency.
My problem is every time I run a cutting I end up growing a better plant from seed again. Or maybe just different and I crave the variety.
I end up with plants that go 9-13 weeks. I keep veg in a holding pattern.
Here is the veg tent.
